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I always think if I approach someone I need to slow down to work out whether I can actually make a
reasonable job of overtaking them. Another benefit being that you have spare reserves to overtake
them sensibly.
Anyway, last night got overtaken by a roady who wasn't convincingly faster, and farted about on
roundabouts in front of me - as this was irritating and unsafe - I overtook him, but he decided to
re-overtake some time later.
Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat didn't
help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:14:55 +0000 (UTC), W K <hyagillot@tesco.net> wrote:
[...]
> Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat
> didn't help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
I often overtake students on my Brommie. This seems to have an odd effect. The sight of this 40+
year-old on a weird looking bike causes them to stand in the saddle of their full-sus MTB and put
even more effort in to get past me. They generally don't pass me again. I'm not particularly fast on
a bike but I do tend to use the right gear and lube my transmission more than once a year.
Colin
--
W K wrote:
> Anyway, last night got overtaken by a roady who wasn't convincingly faster, and farted about on
> roundabouts in front of me - as this was irritating and unsafe - I overtook him, but he decided to
> re-overtake some time later.
>
> Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat
> didn't help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
SPuDs etc. on a rather nice looking racer pulling out from the kerb in front of me as I was going
along with "I'm faster than you" body language. I didn't want to overtake because she went straight
to the right hand side of our half of the road, and I don't like undertaking in such a situation,
too risky. Moving onto a minor road with very long sightlines overtaking got safer, but I decided
not to in the end, partly as I'd be turning left shortly after passing and partly I thought it might
rather hurt her pride to have some wee-wheeled bike with a shopping basket on it ridden by someone
in everyday clothes cruise by. But I could have offered useful advice on the lines of "if you don't
stop pedalling for every other 5 seconds you'll be able to go a lot quicker!".
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:14:55 +0000 (UTC), W K <hyagillot@tesco.net> wrote:
[...]
> Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat
> didn't help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
I often overtake students on my Brommie. This seems to have an odd effect. The sight of this 40+
year-old on a weird looking bike causes them to stand in the saddle of their full-sus MTB and put
even more effort in to get past me. They generally don't pass me again. I'm not particularly fast on
a bike but I do tend to use the right gear and lube my transmission more than once a year.
Colin
--
W K wrote:
> Anyway, last night got overtaken by a roady who wasn't convincingly faster, and farted about on
> roundabouts in front of me - as this was irritating and unsafe - I overtook him, but he decided to
> re-overtake some time later.
>
> Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat
> didn't help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
SPuDs etc. on a rather nice looking racer pulling out from the kerb in front of me as I was going
along with "I'm faster than you" body language. I didn't want to overtake because she went straight
to the right hand side of our half of the road, and I don't like undertaking in such a situation,
too risky. Moving onto a minor road with very long sightlines overtaking got safer, but I decided
not to in the end, partly as I'd be turning left shortly after passing and partly I thought it might
rather hurt her pride to have some wee-wheeled bike with a shopping basket on it ridden by someone
in everyday clothes cruise by. But I could have offered useful advice on the lines of "if you don't
stop pedalling for every other 5 seconds you'll be able to go a lot quicker!".
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:14:55 +0000 (UTC), W K <hyagillot@tesco.net> wrote:
[...]
> Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat
> didn't help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
I often overtake students on my Brommie. This seems to have an odd effect. The sight of this 40+
year-old on a weird looking bike causes them to stand in the saddle of their full-sus MTB and put
even more effort in to get past me. They generally don't pass me again. I'm not particularly fast on
a bike but I do tend to use the right gear and lube my transmission more than once a year.
Colin
--
W K wrote:
> Anyway, last night got overtaken by a roady who wasn't convincingly faster, and farted about on
> roundabouts in front of me - as this was irritating and unsafe - I overtook him, but he decided to
> re-overtake some time later.
>
> Perhaps that I was on a mountain bike with full mudguards+rack, wearing jeans and a big coat
> didn't help. But at least I kept up with him for 3 miles.
Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
SPuDs etc. on a rather nice looking racer pulling out from the kerb in front of me as I was going
along with "I'm faster than you" body language. I didn't want to overtake because she went straight
to the right hand side of our half of the road, and I don't like undertaking in such a situation,
too risky. Moving onto a minor road with very long sightlines overtaking got safer, but I decided
not to in the end, partly as I'd be turning left shortly after passing and partly I thought it might
rather hurt her pride to have some wee-wheeled bike with a shopping basket on it ridden by someone
in everyday clothes cruise by. But I could have offered useful advice on the lines of "if you don't
stop pedalling for every other 5 seconds you'll be able to go a lot quicker!".
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3FD09843.8080800@dundee.ac.uk...
> Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
Hmm, I think I can follow the logic in staying behind (pun intended :)
Pete
"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3FD09843.8080800@dundee.ac.uk...
> Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
Hmm, I think I can follow the logic in staying behind (pun intended :)
Pete
Peter Clinch wrote in message ...
> I thought it might rather hurt her pride to have some wee-wheeled bike with a shopping basket on
> it ridden by someone in everyday clothes cruise by.
Reminds me of one of our girls who got in late to work on her bicycle.
"Well ,,, the nice bloke that was following me was cycling too slow" :~)
Colin Blackburn <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> said:
> I often overtake students on my Brommie. This seems to have an odd effect. The sight of this 40+
> year-old on a weird looking bike causes them to stand in the saddle of their full-sus MTB and put
> even more effort in to get past me. They generally don't pass me again. I'm not particularly fast
> on a bike but I do tend to use the right gear and lube my transmission more than once a year.
I like passing their elaborate mountain bikes on my fixed gear while going uphill, sometimes making
a comment about my granny being faster[1]. Doing that is even better than passing the more useless
variety of fair-weather cyclist while riding a tourer with bulging panniers and a big bunch of leeks
or other comedy vegetable tied onto the rack.
Hehe.
Regards,
-david
[1] Especially since a fixed gear is so quiet compared to their rusting ironmongery I can appear
right next to them before they notice...
Peter Clinch wrote in message ...
> I thought it might rather hurt her pride to have some wee-wheeled bike with a shopping basket on
> it ridden by someone in everyday clothes cruise by.
Reminds me of one of our girls who got in late to work on her bicycle.
"Well ,,, the nice bloke that was following me was cycling too slow" :~)
Colin Blackburn <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> said:
> I often overtake students on my Brommie. This seems to have an odd effect. The sight of this 40+
> year-old on a weird looking bike causes them to stand in the saddle of their full-sus MTB and put
> even more effort in to get past me. They generally don't pass me again. I'm not particularly fast
> on a bike but I do tend to use the right gear and lube my transmission more than once a year.
I like passing their elaborate mountain bikes on my fixed gear while going uphill, sometimes making
a comment about my granny being faster[1]. Doing that is even better than passing the more useless
variety of fair-weather cyclist while riding a tourer with bulging panniers and a big bunch of leeks
or other comedy vegetable tied onto the rack.
Hehe.
Regards,
-david
[1] Especially since a fixed gear is so quiet compared to their rusting ironmongery I can appear
right next to them before they notice...
"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3FD09843.8080800@dundee.ac.uk...
> Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
Hmm, I think I can follow the logic in staying behind (pun intended :)
Pete
"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3FD09843.8080800@dundee.ac.uk... .
>
> Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
> SPuDs etc. on a rather nice looking racer pulling out from the kerb in front of me as I was going
> along with "I'm faster than you" body language. I didn't want to overtake because she went
> straight to the right hand side of our half of the road, and I don't like undertaking in such a
> situation, too risky.
[...]
I think I need help with the body language thing.
Now that the winter is here and the "Club Roadies" have put their bikes back in the loft, I tend to
be the fastest thing around on my commute. (Please
note: This does NOT mean I am fast.)
So I usually have to overtake 1 or 2 other cyclists. What's the body language for "Look, I just
happen to be going faster and it's no big deal, it's not an ego thing or anything, honest"
--
Cheerful pedalling John Mallard
Peter Clinch wrote in message ...
> I thought it might rather hurt her pride to have some wee-wheeled bike with a shopping basket on
> it ridden by someone in everyday clothes cruise by.
Reminds me of one of our girls who got in late to work on her bicycle.
"Well ,,, the nice bloke that was following me was cycling too slow" :~)
"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3FD09843.8080800@dundee.ac.uk... .
>
> Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
> SPuDs etc. on a rather nice looking racer pulling out from the kerb in front of me as I was going
> along with "I'm faster than you" body language. I didn't want to overtake because she went
> straight to the right hand side of our half of the road, and I don't like undertaking in such a
> situation, too risky.
[...]
I think I need help with the body language thing.
Now that the winter is here and the "Club Roadies" have put their bikes back in the loft, I tend to
be the fastest thing around on my commute. (Please
note: This does NOT mean I am fast.)
So I usually have to overtake 1 or 2 other cyclists. What's the body language for "Look, I just
happen to be going faster and it's no big deal, it's not an ego thing or anything, honest"
--
Cheerful pedalling John Mallard
Colin Blackburn <colin.blackburn@durham.ac.uk> said:
> I often overtake students on my Brommie. This seems to have an odd effect. The sight of this 40+
> year-old on a weird looking bike causes them to stand in the saddle of their full-sus MTB and put
> even more effort in to get past me. They generally don't pass me again. I'm not particularly fast
> on a bike but I do tend to use the right gear and lube my transmission more than once a year.
I like passing their elaborate mountain bikes on my fixed gear while going uphill, sometimes making
a comment about my granny being faster[1]. Doing that is even better than passing the more useless
variety of fair-weather cyclist while riding a tourer with bulging panniers and a big bunch of leeks
or other comedy vegetable tied onto the rack.
Hehe.
Regards,
-david
[1] Especially since a fixed gear is so quiet compared to their rusting ironmongery I can appear
right next to them before they notice...
"Peter Clinch" <p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:3FD09843.8080800@dundee.ac.uk... .
>
> Had something not entirely dissimilar on the Brom earlier this year, with a lassie in full lycra,
> SPuDs etc. on a rather nice looking racer pulling out from the kerb in front of me as I was going
> along with "I'm faster than you" body language. I didn't want to overtake because she went
> straight to the right hand side of our half of the road, and I don't like undertaking in such a
> situation, too risky.
[...]
I think I need help with the body language thing.
Now that the winter is here and the "Club Roadies" have put their bikes back in the loft, I tend to
be the fastest thing around on my commute. (Please
note: This does NOT mean I am fast.)
So I usually have to overtake 1 or 2 other cyclists. What's the body language for "Look, I just
happen to be going faster and it's no big deal, it's not an ego thing or anything, honest"
--
Cheerful pedalling John Mallard
Peter B wrote:
> Hmm, I think I can follow the logic in staying behind (pun intended :)
one place where recumbents aren't so good, at least on other people! ;-)
She was ok in that regard, but it did get to be rather painful watching her progress. Pedal for
five seconds, freewheel a bit, pedal for 5 seconds, freewheel a bit. God knows how she managed to
get up hills...
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk
http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
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