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The LX rear hub on my mtb was a bit graunchy (again) and stripping it down revealed water ingress
(again) with nice brown gunge and black bearings and freehub race. Opened the freehub and it too was
full of the brown gunge (again, you get the idea). This seems normal for these hubs and my normal
remedy is to buy a new rear hub, which is more economical than buying the constituent parts
seperately, replace the knackered bits and bin the new hub body with the crap.
But when I went to the LBS to get one my eyes were drawn to a shiney Hope XC disc hub with it's
sealed bearings. Thinking this could be the end to the drudgery of cleaning/replacing grubby ball
bearings and adjusting poxy cones for 3x the price of the LX I sold it to myself :-)
So yesterday I was mostly rebuilding a back wheel as an alternative to cleaning me balls (bearings
missus, bearings) which is a job clean enough to do in the warmth of the living room with a deal of
job satisfaction.
Of course having now got a disc compatible rear wheel I only need a disc front hub and a few spokes
and of course think of how long the rims will last, with the attendant saving of time and money
replacing them, if I just go over the last financial hurdle and get some nice Hope
Minis...........plus of course the improved braking efficiency to aid safety..... less wrist strain
on those long wet downhills in deference to my ageing body.....no more cables to replace.....
I know it makes sense ;-)
Pete
"Peter B" <peter28@btinternet.com> wrote a post headed:
Hubs and slipppery slpopes.
Not really dislexik (sic) 'onest Guv ;-)
Pete
Peter B wrote:
>
> I know it makes sense ;-)
>
And you won't regret it ;-)
Tony
"Peter B" <peter28@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Of course having now got a disc compatible rear wheel I only need a disc front hub and a few
> spokes and of course think of how long the rims will last, with the attendant saving of time and
> money replacing them, if I
just
> go over the last financial hurdle and get some nice Hope Minis...........plus of course the
> improved braking efficiency to aid safety..... less wrist strain on those long wet downhills in
> deference to
my
> ageing body.....no more cables to replace.....
>
Hope Minis have been superceeded by the "Mono" BTW. One piece caliper but more importantly, they've
got gold (anodised) bits in them.
"Andy" <noemailaddy@given.here> wrote in message
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>> Hope Minis have been superceeded by the "Mono" BTW. One piece
> caliper but more importantly, they've got gold (anodised) bits in them.
Thanks for that, their website doesn't make it clear.
http://www.hopetech.com/products/products_index.htm
Pete
"Peter B" <peter28@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> "Andy" <noemailaddy@given.here> wrote in message news:v6yHb.11834$FN.85@newsfep4-
> winn.server.ntli.net...
> >> Hope Minis have been superceeded by the "Mono" BTW. One piece
> > caliper but more importantly, they've got gold (anodised) bits in them.
>
> Thanks for that, their website doesn't make it clear.
What I mean is they don't make it clear that the Minis are being superceded and retailers are
offering both at the same price which further confused me as applicationwise they seem aimed at the
same niche.
Pete
Weeelllll.... Was off out yesterday, attempted to wheel MTB out of the kitchen, and the back wheel
wasn't turning. Wonderful sealed bearings in the Hope hub had seized up. The grass isn't always
greener ;)
My fault, I'd hosed the bike down after the last trip and must have blasted some water into the LHS
bearing, then left it unused a couple of weeks. Managed to pop the seal out of the cartridge, a few
drops of oil, wheel back in bike with very tight skewer, got it turning, flushed with GT85, inject
some grease, replace seal, should now be OK.
As with any hub, be careful with the hose. I always found the drive side on Shimano stuff very
vulnerable to water ingress.
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Steve
Steven Briggs <news@sbriggs.freeserve.co.unitedkingdom> writes:
> Weeelllll.... Was off out yesterday, attempted to wheel MTB out of the kitchen, and the back wheel
> wasn't turning.
>
> Wonderful sealed bearings in the Hope hub had seized up. The grass isn't always greener ;)
>
> My fault, I'd hosed the bike down after the last trip and must have blasted some water into the
> LHS bearing, then left it unused a couple of weeks. Managed to pop the seal out of the cartridge,
> a few drops of oil, wheel back in bike with very tight skewer, got it turning, flushed with GT85,
> inject some grease, replace seal, should now be OK.
>
> As with any hub, be careful with the hose. I always found the drive side on Shimano stuff very
> vulnerable to water ingress.
We have a carwash style large soft brush on the end of the hose. It's great for washing down bikes -
no water pressure so little risk of damage to bushes and bearings, but plenty of water to lubricate
the brush and prevent it scratching paint. And it gets mud off very effectively.
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discussion of copyright law, 22/05/02
In news:v6yHb.11834$FN.85@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net,
Andy <noemailaddy@given.here> typed:
> Hope Minis have been superceeded by the "Mono" BTW. One piece caliper but more importantly,
> they've got gold (anodised) bits in them.
Oh, anodised. I was trying to imagine a use for an incredibly heavy and soft metal on a bike.
Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
>
> Oh, anodised. I was trying to imagine a use for an incredibly heavy and soft metal on a bike.
There's nothing new in the world of bicycles or google:
"Lillian Russell, the voluptuous showgirl, quadruple divorcee, newspaper columnist and arm candy of
Diamond Jim Brady, made feminist history in the 1890s when she pedaled her gold-plated bicycle
through Central Park without a corset."
""Torchy" Peden was one of the greatest cyclists of his era and in the 1930's CCM presented him with
a gold-plated bicycle that he rode in special exhibitions. He was the world champion long-distance
cyclist in 1934 and at the height of his career he earned as much as $50,000 a year - a huge sum
during the depths of the great Depression. "
Tony
"Ambrose Nankivell" <$FirstnameInitialofSurname$@onetel.net.uk> writes:
> In news:v6yHb.11834$FN.85@newsfep4-winn.server.ntli.net, Andy <noemailaddy@given.here> typed:
> > Hope Minis have been superceeded by the "Mono" BTW. One piece caliper but more importantly,
> > they've got gold (anodised) bits in them.
>
> Oh, anodised. I was trying to imagine a use for an incredibly heavy and soft metal on a bike.
Electrical conductivity, corrosion resistance. Both useful properties. Heat conductivity, too, but
not so relevent to bicycles.
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Simon Brooke wrote:
>
> Ambrose Nankivell writes:
> >
> > Oh, anodised. I was trying to imagine a use for an incredibly heavy and
soft
> > metal on a bike.
>
> Electrical conductivity, corrosion resistance. Both useful properties. Heat conductivity, too, but
> not so relevent to bicycles.
>
Au contraire, mon ami. Heat conductivity when referenced with regard to braking is a *very*
important factor. The ability of the braking system to transfer heat/insulate either to or away from
the braking surfaces/brake fluid is of paramount importance.
hth :o)
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"Tony Raven" <junk@raven-family.com> wrote in message
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> Peter B wrote:
> >
> > I know it makes sense ;-)
> >
>
> And you won't regret it ;-)
Now at the bottom of the slope having just bought a front hub, rim, spokes and a pair of very nice
Hope Mini Monos.
The crunch was yesterdays ride at Afan Argoed where the back V brake decided to concentrate all its'
effort on rim eating at the expense of actually slowing the bike by any noticable degree ;-)
Pete
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