Knee problems

[Tom]

About 1.5 years ago, I was running when I suddenly get a sharp pain in my left knee. I hobbled for a
couple more miles. When I finished, I was a little sore. But not too bad. Then when I was rested, I
became worse.

Now 1.5 years later, I seem to drag my left leg a bit when I start running. The pain seems to get
less and less all the time. But only microscopically less. My left shoe really wears out funny. My
left outside heal and left Big toe area wear out while my right shoe is not worn out much at all.

My knee doesn't seem to bother me too much in cold climate. And after running a couple of miles, any
pain does go away. Also any leg dragging seems to become very minimal also.

Can any one give me a diagnosis of this? I would like to stop limping(The amount of pain vs the
amount of limping do not co-relate too well.) I wish I would not limp/draging my left leg But no
matter how much I try to stop limping...I can't.

[Doug Freese]

Tom wrote:

> About 1.5 years ago, I was running when I suddenly get a sharp pain in my left knee. I hobbled for
> a couple more miles. When I finished, I was a little sore. But not too bad. Then when I was
> rested, I became worse.
>
> Now 1.5 years later, I seem to drag my left leg a bit when I start running. The pain seems to get
> less and less all the time. But only microscopically less. My left shoe really wears out funny. My
> left outside heal and left Big toe area wear out while my right shoe is not worn out much at all.
>
> My knee doesn't seem to bother me too much in cold climate. And after running a couple of miles,
> any pain does go away. Also any leg dragging seems to become very minimal also.
>
> Can any one give me a diagnosis of this?

Sure you have "drag leg syndrome" please remit $250. I don't see any reference to any professional
medical person. Does this mean you have been struggling with this for over 1.5 years without seeking
professional help? I would find an Orthopedic doctor.

Sounds trollish but I'm trying not to be that cynical....

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com

[Ozzie Gontang]

In article <QXFOb.92942$fq1.75018@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, Tom
<tbaas@msn.com> wrote:

> About 1.5 years ago, I was running when I suddenly get a sharp pain in my left knee. I hobbled for
> a couple more miles. When I finished, I was a little sore. But not too bad. Then when I was
> rested, I became worse.
>
> Now 1.5 years later, I seem to drag my left leg a bit when I start running. The pain seems to get
> less and less all the time. But only microscopically less. My left shoe really wears out funny. My
> left outside heal and left Big toe area wear out while my right shoe is not worn out much at all.
>
> My knee doesn't seem to bother me too much in cold climate. And after running a couple of miles,
> any pain does go away. Also any leg dragging seems to become very minimal also.
>
> Can any one give me a diagnosis of this? I would like to stop limping(The amount of pain vs the
> amount of limping do not co-relate too well.) I wish I would not limp/draging my left leg But no
> matter how much I try to stop limping...I can't.

Some thoughts from a previous post. The wear of the left shoe indicates a splay. With that splay
there's a shearing force on what is suppose to be a right angle hinge (the knee). Check out
http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp on the influence of the quad on the knee.

Ozzie

> She walks with her toes pointed slightly outwards, and has a reasonable arch. (Yeah, I know, loads
> of random information, but I don't really know much about this stuff - I'm lucky enough to be an
> almost perfectly neutral striker).
>
> Can anyone give me any advice on what I could suggest to her? She seems to be quite enjoying
> running, and it would be a shame for this to spoil it. Specifically, should she be on the lookout
> for a particular type of shoe, like maybe on of the motion-control ones?
>
> Many thanks for your advice in advance... Cheers, Nick. nick@t...

Great random info Nick. The splay foot has to do with the rotation of the hips ...or if she stands
with knees pushed back (hyperextended, often called sabre legs) the quads tighten and the tightening
rotates the hips outward and there-fore the splay of foot. I know it well. Some friends of mind
looking for me in a small Moroccan border town's Marketplace asked if any one had seen the tall guy
with black hair. "Oh Charlie Chaplan, yes he went that way." It was then that the Little Tramp's
splay foot walk in me was identified.

In standing, have her rotate her heels outward so foot is straight ahead. The hip follows the heel.
Then have her bring her feet together so that they are aligned under her shoulders.

Rolfing, deep tissue massageo the quad area might be some ways of getting the splay minimized. Mine
is still there after 20 years, but not as severe as it once was.

Also she is overstriding, the wear on the outside heel. Have her keep her eyes on the horizon rather
than looking down. Also if she will lean forward from the sternum a quarter of an inch she'll stop
landing on the back of her heel.

Let us know how it goes.

[Phil M.]

Ozzie Gontang <gontang215@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:190120041816266787%
gontang215@sbcglobal.net:

> http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp

My post from 1998 lives on! I demand royalties. ;-)

-Phil

[Ozzie Gontang]

In article <Xns9475D9B8ECAC8seilogramp@216.77.188.18>, Phil M.
<pmarg@charter.net> wrote:

> Ozzie Gontang <gontang215@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:190120041816266787%
> gontang215@sbcglobal.net:
>
> > http://www.mindfulness.com/of5.asp
>
> My post from 1998 lives on! I demand royalties. ;-)
>
> -Phil

Phil,

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