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with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.
I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I have to vent my anger/frustration somewhere.
Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding along the road at the left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As I am going straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind me decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me and then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his bonnett. And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and wants me to pay for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will be reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.
If I hadn't been splatted I would have quite happily smashed his ****ing face in and torched his car.
Luckily I aint hurt, just a few bumps and bruises, but I am seriously ****ed off about this total ****. This guy seems to think that by me asking him for his insurance details I am just trying to scam money out of him!!! Do these tossers never see past their wallets? I could be dead and he is worrying about a few quid to get his car fixed. (somehow my bike was completely fine) I will most definitely be getting in touch with his insurance company (I don't have their details but I am sure I can get them through the police or other channels) and telling them NOT to pay out for the repairs to this guys car.
next driver that comes even remotely close to me is going to be losing front teeth. And people wonder why I can't stand cars or the ****wits that drive them. Tossers the lot of them . ****ing wankers. vent vent vent vent
"davebee" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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> Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding along the road at the
> left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one standard so no motorist could ever say i am not
> visible.
Ah, there's your mistake you see - you're missing two wheels which instantly puts a cloak of
invisibility over you, no matter how hard you try.
> I have got his numberplate and will be reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.
>
> Luckily I aint hurt, just a few bumps and bruises,
Well, you are hurt then.
If an accident involves injury, it gets treated a lot more seriously by plod and insurance, so make
sure whenever you speak to them you mention the injury.
Also make sure your bike is ok - if necessary pay for a professional opinion (you can claim it back
from the driver/insurance).
> I will most definitely be getting in touch with his insurance company (I don't have their details
> but I am sure I can get them through the police or other channels) and telling them NOT to pay out
> for the repairs to this guys car.
Don't do that, it's not their problem (and makes you look ranty - reasonable in the circs, but
remember the insurance company wants nothing to do with your anger). But make sure a claim is made
by claiming for the aforementioned injury, that way it hits the driver in the pocket with NCB loss.
If the driver/insurance company admit liability, then all will be ok and you'll be able to claim for
the above stuff fairly easily (I've done this twice now - no personal injury, just knackered stuff).
If they start being arsey, then take advice from eg the CTC people (you are a member, aren't you?)
cheers, clive
> next driver that comes even remotely close to me is going to be losing front teeth. And people
> wonder why I can't stand cars or the ****wits that drive them. Tossers the lot of them . ****ing
> wankers. vent vent vent vent
>
Remember that many motorists think the same of you because of the behaviour of a minority of of
cyclists - it cuts both ways you know :-)
You do need to mention to the police that you have been injured as I believe that there are legal
implications for making compensation claims for unreported injuries that subsequently turn out to be
more serious than they first appear. You should also mention that the motorist refused to give you
his insurance details - he is legally obliged to do so.
Ranting about your intolerance of motorists will not yield dividends when dealing with the police or
the motorist's insurance company - they deal in facts and not emotions.
I once extracted £300 cash at the scene of the accident from a motorist that knocked me off my motor
cycle by calmly and audibly cataloguing the damaged components and their inflated replacement and
fitting costs before offering him the option of coughing up or having his reckless driving reported
to the police whose local station was 400 metres away. As much as I'd I've liked to inflict life
threatening injuries on the hapless chap I remembered the immortal phrase - "Revenge is a dish best
served cold"
On the injury front - do get yourself checked out especially if you hurt more tomorrow than you do
now. I ignored some twinges from a low speed spill and ended up with some deep seated tissue damage
in my shoulder that took months to stop hurting.
Vernon a cyclist who drives a car or a motorist who rides a bike - take your pick
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:53:25 GMT, davebee scrawled: ) I have got his numberplate and will be )
reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.
Out of interest, is there a legal precedent that implies one ought not to broadcast such
numberplates? If one has photos to back up what might otherwise be called libellous, can one publish
and be damned?
I should add that I have no such photos. But I do have a new camera, and a route to work that brings
me into contact with more than one idiot.
J-P
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>Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding along the road at the left
>hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one standard so no motorist could ever say i am not visible. As
>I am going straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind me decides he
>doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the turning so he can safely turn behind me. OH NO,
>thats far too ****ing simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull alongside me and then
>turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his bonnett. And then get this, this
>total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is my own fault that I am splattered all over the floor and
>wants me to pay for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will be reporting him to
>the police for dangerous driving.
snippity...
You were hurt - you were injured, even if relatively mildly. Any accident where there are injuries
*should* be reported to the police. If the driver has not reported it - he is committing an offence,
if I recall correctly - I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that.
You have every right to be upset, from what you describe as happening. BUT *you* need to
1. inform the police of the incident - your injuries and any damage to your bike. Note the cost of
damages to bike etc.
2. If you are a member of the CTC phone them for help *now* - you have insurance and legal cover for
such incidents as these.
3. See a doctor a.s.a.p. to have a formal record of your injuries. I hope your injuries are minor -
but on the small chance something more serious develops - you *need* this formally recorded.
4. If you don't have CTC cover mentioned, get a copy of Cycling Weekly or Cycling Plus, they contain
adverts for solicitors who specialise in acting on behalf of cyclists - check out your rights
with one a.s.a.p. It's protecting *you* from bully-boy tactics of motoring insurance companies.
Best wishes, helen s
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davebee <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> writes:
> with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.
>
> I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I have to vent my
> anger/frustration somewhere.
>
> Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding along the road at the
> left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one standard so no motorist could ever say i am not
> visible. As I am going straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind me
> decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the turning so he can safely turn
> behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull
> alongside me and then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his bonnett. And
> then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is my own fault that I am splattered all
> over the floor and wants me to pay for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will
> be reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.
Next time, phone the police on your mobile and keep him at the scene - if you can - until they
arrive. Feign mild concussion if you need to. The guy needs his license taken away from him.
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now. ;; Rainer Deyke
Same thing happened to me this lunchtime _get this_ by a driver turning left into me to get to his
local AA office!! Talk about adding insult to injury!! Arrghh!! Luckily I braked in time so no harm
done but it makes you fume doesnt it.
Any suggestions for ways to count to ten before reacting to murderous drivers?
Chris
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:53:25 GMT, davebee <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.
>
> I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I have to vent my
> anger/frustration somewhere.
>
> Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding along the road at the
> left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one standard so no motorist could ever say i am not
> visible. As I am going straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind me
> decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the turning so he can safely turn
> behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull
> alongside me and then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his bonnett. And
> then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is my own fault that I am splattered all
> over the floor and wants me to pay for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and will
> be reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.
>
> If I hadn't been splatted I would have quite happily smashed his ****ing face in and torched
> his car.
>
> Luckily I aint hurt, just a few bumps and bruises, but I am seriously ****ed off about this total
> ****. This guy seems to think that by me asking him for his insurance details I am just trying to
> scam money out of him!!! Do these tossers never see past their wallets? I could be dead and he is
> worrying about a few quid to get his car fixed. (somehow my bike was completely fine) I will most
> definitely be getting in touch with his insurance company (I don't have their details but I am
> sure I can get them through the police or other channels) and telling them NOT to pay out for the
> repairs to this guys car.
>
> next driver that comes even remotely close to me is going to be losing front teeth. And people
> wonder why I can't stand cars or the ****wits that drive them. Tossers the lot of them . ****ing
> wankers. vent vent vent vent
>
>
>
> --
>
>
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davebee <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in news:pWdPb.59777$ok6.6456
@fe09.usenetserver.com:
> with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.
>
If it makes you feel better, a couple of weeks ago I was on my way home from work when nitwit in
silver BMW whizzes past far too close for comfort on a bend, c.45mph in 30 zone, dark, wet,
temperature about zero. Round the bend and there are two of Strathclyde's finest complete with radar
gun. It was all I could do to stop from rubbing my hands in glee as I passed the three of them :-)
Who says you never see a policeman when you want one?
But do see a doctor and get yourself checked out.
Bill
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:35:02 GMT, Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk>
wrote:
>davebee <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> writes:
>
>> with absolutely zero respect for other road users, especially cyclists.
>>
>> I am about 100% certain that this will have been mentioned before but I have to vent my
>> anger/frustration somewhere.
>>
>> Riding from central Manchester to my flat in Rusholme today, I am riding along the road at the
>> left hand side. 3 backlights, 2 flashing one standard so no motorist could ever say i am not
>> visible. As I am going straight on past a possible left turning some tosser in the car behind me
>> decides he doesn't have enough time to wait for me to pass the turning so he can safely turn
>> behind me. OH NO, thats far too ****ing simple isn't it? Instead he feels it necessary to pull
>> alongside me and then turn straight across me, sending me and bike flying accross his bonnett.
>> And then get this, this total ****WIT somehow thinks that it is my own fault that I am splattered
>> all over the floor and wants me to pay for the dent in his bonnet. I have got his numberplate and
>> will be reporting him to the police for dangerous driving.
>
>Next time, phone the police on your mobile and keep him at the scene - if you can - until they
>arrive. Feign mild concussion if you need to. The guy needs his license taken away from him.
I always had a plan for the eventuality of being hit. I was going to stay on the deck and feign
unconciousness and limbs-in-unnatural-positions. The aim was to ensure the attendance of police etc
and avoid the normal cyclist's instinct to jump up saying "I'm all right" out of misplaced machismo.
When I was hit it went a bit wrong and the plan was not put into action. I was too busy *being*
unconcious.
Helen is spot on in her advice. Particularly the need to report it. Even if it turns out that you
and the bike are OK the bloke who did it will have the naus of having to deal with the police. If
he's got anything dodgy about his car (tax, insurance etc) he might be in a spot of real bother.
Running over people is unlikely to get a prosecution but lack of paperwork is.
Failing to report an injury-accident is also big trouble.
I also cannot underline enough the need to wait a bit before you decide you are OK. I'd read
people saying this in posts before and filed it away as good advice. But when the day came to it I
was saying to the ambulance crew "c'mon guys, I don't need this - I can walk back from here". I
really believed I was OK despite the fact I was passing out as I talked and had a smashed-to-
smithereens arm.
j-p.s wrote:
> Out of interest, is there a legal precedent that implies one ought not to broadcast such
> numberplates? If one has photos to back up what might otherwise be called libellous, can one
> publish and be damned?
Well, if it really is libellous, then you could in theory be sued for libel. I'd be surprised to
hear of it happening in the real world, unless you set out to libel someone seriously, deliberately
and without good reason. Merely identifying a crap driver as a crap driver would hardly count.
The number plates don't identify the driver anyway.
James
"[Not Responding]" <not_responding@dev.null.invalid> writes:
> I also cannot underline enough the need to wait a bit before you decide you are OK. I'd read
> people saying this in posts before and filed it away as good advice. But when the day came to it I
> was saying to the ambulance crew "c'mon guys, I don't need this - I can walk back from here". I
> really believed I was OK despite the fact I was passing out as I talked and had a smashed-to-
> smithereens arm.
I can endorse this. There is a temendous amount of adrenaline in your body immediately after a
crash, and you are not in a normal state. You are, in fact, on a uphoric high - that's what
adrenaline does. It makes you feel, temporarily, much better than you are, so you can deal with the
sabre-toothed tiger or whatever and get out of the situation.
After my motorcycle crash I am told that I walked and talked for about three hours, finding people
to mind the shop, finding people to look after my wife (who was ill) and so on, all before I went to
casualty. I remember nothing of this - nothing from when I saw the frnot wheel coming towards me and
thought 'whoah, this is going to hurt' till I woke up in hospital three days later.
So what you have to do when you're in that state is discount the adrenaline affect. Try to stay
calm. *Assume* that you're injured, even if you don't feel it. Don't believe you're fine until
you've been medically checked over. A friend of mine broke both her legs on the top of Snowdon anw
_walked_ down. She knew she'd hurt herself, but with the adrenaline buzz didn't appreciate how
seriously. Needless to say her legs took a lot longer to set than if she'd got attention sooner.
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turkeytickler <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<opr13ex6lf77jd02@news.clara.net>...
>
> Any suggestions for ways to count to ten before reacting to murderous drivers?
>
> Chris
>
>
Start at one.
Increase in increments of one until you reach ten.
Sorted.
"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" <wafflycathcs@aol.comcomcom> wrote in
message news:20040121070801.21920.00000505@mb-m14.aol.com...
> >> Any suggestions for ways to count to ten before reacting to murderous drivers?
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Start at one.
> >
> >Increase in increments of one until you reach ten.
> >
> >Sorted.
> >
>
> It may be necessary to increase the count to over 100 to allow time for feeligns of the the need
> to react to subside ;-)
>
Or reduce the increment:
point one, point two, point three ... nine point nine, ten
No, no, Dave, you have been /terribly/ injured. You have this unpleasant nagging pain in your back,
which just won't go away...
We wish to make it known that fraudulently claiming to have a bad back is very naughty and we would
not for a minute encourage /anyone/ to do such a dreadfull thing. (Signed) The Mgt.
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Originally posted by Dave Larrington
No, no, Dave, you have been /terribly/ injured. You have this unpleasant nagging pain in your back,
which just won't go away...
We wish to make it known that fraudulently claiming to have a bad back is very naughty and we would
not for a minute encourage /anyone/ to do such a dreadfull thing. (Signed) The Mgt.
I have this unpleasent nagging in the neck but i think that is just my girlfriend flatmates etc etc ;-)
"ShavyDave" <Shavydave@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Any suggestions for ways to count to ten before reacting to murderous drivers?
>
> Start at one.
>
> Increase in increments of one until you reach ten.
>
> Sorted.
Nah. Count to 3, give up, kick the bastard in the goolies.
:~)
Simon Brooke <simon@jasmine.org.uk> wrote in message news:<87y8s17h2p.fsf@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk>...
> I can endorse this. There is a temendous amount of adrenaline in your body immediately after a
> crash, and you are not in a normal state. You are, in fact, on a uphoric high - that's what
> adrenaline does. It makes you feel, temporarily, much better than you are, so you can deal with
> the sabre-toothed tiger or whatever and get out of the situation.
Everybody. The plan is if you're knocked off your bike, and assuming there is no imminent danger of
being further run over, stay down. Do not say, "I'm OK." Staying down will attract help and keep
witnesses and the driver at the scene.
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Dave...
bikingbill <billhenderson@NOSPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9476DE819451Bbikingbill@195.92.193.157>...
> If it makes you feel better, a couple of weeks ago I was on my way home from work when nitwit in
> silver BMW whizzes past far too close for comfort on a bend, c.45mph in 30 zone, dark, wet,
> temperature about zero. Round the bend and there are two of Strathclyde's finest complete with
> radar gun. It was all I could do to stop from rubbing my hands in glee as I passed the three of
> them :-) Who says you never see a policeman when you want one?
You could always have stopped and told them you wanted to lay a complaint of dangerous driving
against the same motorist. Twist the knife while you have the chance.
--
Dave...
On 20 Jan 2004 21:52:27 GMT someone who may be bikingbill
<billhenderson@NOSPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote this:-
>nitwit in silver BMW whizzes past far too close for comfort on a bend, c.45mph in 30 zone, dark,
>wet, temperature about zero. Round the bend and there are two of Strathclyde's finest complete with
>radar gun.
You must be lying:-) We have been told by the unacceptable face of motoring that the police only use
speed cameras for this sort of thing.
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