ultra runner dies after 200 mile run
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This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race. There is a mention of him in
rec.running in 1996.
On 21 Jan 2004 09:05:48 -0800, rick303@hotmail.com (rick++) wrote:
>This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
>http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
>experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race. There is a mention of him in
>rec.running in 1996.
Oh! That's it then. I'm quitting running.
>Oh! That's it then. I'm quitting running.
Will you be quitting "rec.running" too? Promise?
rick++ wrote:
> This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
> experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race.
All of us on the ultra list are sad yet curious to the cause of death. No matter how well we take
care of ourselves it does not mean we are invincible.
--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com
Doug Freese wrote:
>Rick++ wrote:
>
>> This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
>> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
>> experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race.
>
>
>All of us on the ultra list are sad yet curious to the cause of death. No matter how well we take
>care of ourselves it does not mean we are invincible.
>
The guy runs 130 miles in 24 hours in November, then goes for 48 hours on January 1.
Cause of death = going to the well once too often?
I've never quite understood why, when guys like Khalid can only race 2 marathons a year, some
recreational runners think their own recovery ability is so much greater.
Lyndon "Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach Brooks Johnson
On 21 Jan 2004 18:59:14 GMT, nottactful@aol.com (NotTactful) wrote:
>Will you be quitting "rec.running" too? Promise?
Why? Don't you like me?
>I've never quite understood why, when guys like Khalid can only race 2
marathons a year, some recreational runners think their own recovery ability is so much greater.
February's RW covers those 2 Brits who ran 7 marathons in 7 days. (Not just "completed"; I think
their time for the first Marathon was about 3:45, and slowly ascended through the last six). What's
more, the races were all over the globe (sleeping only on airplanes!).
On 21 Jan 2004 20:57:32 GMT, nottactful@aol.com (NotTactful) wrote:
>Actually, it's that "KissKiss" moniker...
I think it brings a certain homoerotic quality to the shores of rec.running. If you *really* don't
like it I'll change it to something else less worrying...
In article <20040121154614.13026.00000466@mb-m02.aol.com>,
airlyndon@aol.comnospam (Lyndon) wrote:
> Doug Freese wrote:
>
> >Rick++ wrote:
> >
> >> This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
> >> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
> >> experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race.
> >
> >
> >All of us on the ultra list are sad yet curious to the cause of death. No matter how well we take
> >care of ourselves it does not mean we are invincible.
> >
> The guy runs 130 miles in 24 hours in November, then goes for 48 hours on January 1.
>
> Cause of death = going to the well once too often?
>
He tried to run 48 hours in one day? Maybe the cause of death was trying to violate the laws
of physics.
--Harold Buck
"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ."
- Homer J. Simpson
He dies after jogging 200 miles, and no one is clear on the cause of death? It's time to
change hmo's.
if anyone hears more about the cause can he/she post ,,, i would like to know plodzilla
rick++ wrote:
>
> This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
> experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race. There is a mention of him in
> rec.running in 1996.
Lyndon wrote:
> The guy runs 130 miles in 24 hours in November, then goes for 48 hours on January 1.
>
> Cause of death = going to the well once too often?
>
> I've never quite understood why, when guys like Khalid can only race 2 marathons a year, some
> recreational runners think their own recovery ability is so much greater.
Since you hang around the track and not the ultra circuit what sounds like a lot really isn't. Guys
like Khalid run a race at 110%. Recreatonal endurance runners run a little easier and can do these
quite regularly. I can recant many stories that would make the person that died look like he was in
taper mode.
Monica Schultz did 23 100's on one year. In some months that was one a week and included all the
hard ones. Many others do an ultra a month in the 50 or 100 mile range.
--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com
In article <20040121154614.13026.00000466@mb-m02.aol.com>, Lyndon wrote:
> I've never quite understood why, when guys like Khalid can only race 2 marathons a year, some
> recreational runners think their own recovery ability is so much greater.
I think it's more difference in discipline. The vast majority of recreational runners are not
willing to do the sort of preparation that Khalid does for a given race. It's not that these runners
"think their own recovery ability is so much greater", it is that they are not as concerned
(obsessed?) with preparing properly for the race as Khalid is (or, they have a radically different
notion of "preparing properly").
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
Doug Freese wrote:
>
>
> Monica Schultz did 23 100's on one year. In some months that was one a week and included all the
> hard ones.
including the Susitna 100, which isn't usually included in any list but running 100 mi on snow (not
sure how much on snowshoes) in Alaska winter is just a little different than your normal trail race,
IMHO. IIRC, she placed fairly well in a number of the races she ran that year.
Dot
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
I bet the blood tests will show that his electrolyte balance was seriously out of whack--and
although he was hydrated enough so as to be *standing* right after the race, once he went to bed he
got out of balance again and that triggered a heart attack/arrhythmia so that he never woke up.
Jean in VA
"gentolm" <gentolm@boeing.com> wrote in message news:400F5FA8.EC1FFD15@boeing.com...
> if anyone hears more about the cause can he/she post ,,, i would like to know plodzilla
>
> rick++ wrote:
> >
> > This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
> > http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
> > experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race. There is a mention of him in
> > rec.running in 1996.
> >
> > Monica Schultz did 23 100's on one year. In some months that was one a week and included all the
> > hard ones.
>
> including the Susitna 100, which isn't usually included in any list but running 100 mi on snow
> (not sure how much on snowshoes) in Alaska winter is just a little different than your normal
> trail race, IMHO. IIRC, she placed fairly well in a number of the races she ran that year.
>
> Dot
here's a great interview with scholz...
http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/uw_archive/n26no01b.html
crafty counterpuncher wrote:
>
> here's a great interview with scholz...
>
> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/uw_archive/n26no01b.html
Thanks. I liked this quote:
"Probably the hardest race I've every done in my life was up in Alaska at the Susitna (Feb. 17-18).
It was 38 hours running. It was all slushy during the day, and the runners' feet were pretty much
all soaked. It was freezing cold at night. I don't know the temperature, but it was really, really
nasty cold. Something like 40 percent of the field had to get airlifted out of there."
And that race is never listed among the "toughest" ;) But it's not too old and maybe why - spun off
the old Iditasport which dates back much longer. No, it's not on my list of to-do's.
Dot
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
crafty counterpuncher wrote:
> here's a great interview with scholz...
>
> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/uw_archive/n26no01b.html
Now I know why Hans-Dieter Weisshaar grumbled when we ran together and I mentioned Monica at the
Vermont 100 last year - she had broken his record. ;) Then again she is mid thirties and Hans is
early 60's.
--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com
It's regretful to hear that. Too much running is certainly bad, especially
considering he's 46 years old.
"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f7422d8e.0401210905.4463ea03@posting.google.com...
> This appeared in a Denver paper and on the web at
> http://www.ultramarathonworld.com/news_2004/n06ja04d.htm. Its not clear yet why this highly
> experienced runner Mark Heinemann passed away after a long race. There is a mention of him in
> rec.running in 1996.
rc5 wrote:
> It's regretful to hear that. Too much running is certainly bad, especially considering he's 46
> years old.
Before I use bad words would you care to clarify exactly what this statement means.
--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com
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