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Cicero
  
Yesterday I got three punctures in one wheel in about twenty yards. A farmer or the Local Council
had just finished cutting a hawthorn hedge adjacent to the cycle track.

Today I bought a 'Raleigh puncture resistant cycle tube' to fit to the front wheel of my trike. I'm
hoping that this will save me the 'pleasure' of mending punctures in future as the front wheel on
the trike can be difficult to mend.

Has anybody any experience of these wonderful puncture resistant tubes or am I going to be
disappointed?

Any opinions very welcome...

Cic.

Just Zis Guy
  
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:24:17 GMT, "Cicero" <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk>
wrote:

>Has anybody any experience of these wonderful puncture resistant tubes or am I going to be
>disappointed?

Kevar belted tyres offer some resistance to puncture weed, but only moderate. Hedgecutters are a
work of Stan :-(

Guy
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Pete Biggs
  
Cicero wrote:
> Today I bought a 'Raleigh puncture resistant cycle tube' to fit to the front wheel of my trike.

How is it puncture resistant? Stuff in it? Thicker than normal?

~PB

Tim Dunne
  
Cicero wrote:
: Any opinions very welcome...

If they're stamped 'Dutch Perfect' (raleigh rebrands these) I've had a pair of those on my hybrid
for a year now and not one fatality. Very pleased...

Tim
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Cicero
  
"Just zis Guy, you know?" <outlook.bugs@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:24:17 GMT, "Cicero" <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Has anybody any experience of these wonderful puncture resistant tubes or
am
> >I going to be disappointed?
>
> Kevar belted tyres offer some resistance to puncture weed, but only moderate. Hedgecutters are a
> work of Stan :-(
>
> Guy
> ===
> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
> http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk (http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk/)

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The shop didn't have Kevlar tyres in stock so I just bought the puncture resistant tube. Apparently
it's quite in order to use both a kevlar tyre and a puncture resistant tube together so I will buy
the kevlar tyre when it's available. That should provide virtual armour plated riding!

Cic.

Cicero
  
"Pete Biggs" <ptangerine{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote in message
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> Cicero wrote:
> > Today I bought a 'Raleigh puncture resistant cycle tube' to fit to the front wheel of my trike.
>
> How is it puncture resistant? Stuff in it? Thicker than normal?
>
> ~PB
>
>
===========
It's much thicker than normal on the outer face and possibly slightly thicker on the inner surface.
It's difficult to be certain but the outer surface appears to be about 1/8" to 3/16" thick. The
shopkeeeper specifically stated that it doesn't contain any self-sealing 'stuff' such as 'Slime'.
Apparently self-healing products are only good for punctures up to about 2mm diameter.

Cic.

Cicero
  
"Tim Dunne" <Bit_Bucket@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Cicero wrote:
> : Any opinions very welcome...
>
> If they're stamped 'Dutch Perfect' (raleigh rebrands these) I've had a
pair
> of those on my hybrid for a year now and not one fatality. Very pleased...
>
> Tim
> --
==================
No, it's stamped 'Cheng Shin Tube' but packed as 'Raleigh'. The shopkeeper stated that they haven't
had a single return in over a year of sales but he would, wouldn't he? Still, I'm hopeful!

Cic.

Richard Goodman
  
"Cicero" <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk> wrote in message
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>

> It's much thicker than normal on the outer face and possibly slightly thicker on the inner
> surface. It's difficult to be certain but the outer surface appears to be about 1/8" to 3/16"
> thick. The shopkeeeper specifically stated that it doesn't contain any self-sealing 'stuff'
such
> as 'Slime'. Apparently self-healing products are only good for punctures
up
> to about 2mm diameter.
>
> Cic.
>

Others may differ but my experience is that the best way of avoiding punctures is the kevlar belt
inserts that fit between tyre and tube. They really do work to prevent punctures (slime only 'heals'
them if you get one) - my tyres get slashed to bits with all the glass I encounter on my route, but
no punctures. The liners also help the tyres last a bit longer but preventing the tube from bulging
out some of the holes! When I got a new bike I didn't put liners in right away and had a puncture
within a week, after putting them in none since.

Rich

Just Zis Guy
  
"Cicero" <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The shopkeeper stated that they haven't had a single return in over a year of sales

Heh! Mental picture of cyclist trying desperately to get to shop to return tube, thwarted every five
yards by the p*nct*r* fairy :-)

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Vernon Levy
  
> > >Has anybody any experience of these wonderful puncture resistant tubes
or
> am
> > >I going to be disappointed?

My youngest son is the bane of my life. I'm sure that he's in league with the puncture repair kit
industry as barely a week goes by without me having to repair a puncture on his BMX though it has
occured to me as I type this, that he's survived January unpunctured. At peak activity it can be
twice daily. I've tried a variety of tubes to make life easier for me and he's managed to circumvent
slime filled and thickened rubber tubes with aplomb. Admittedly some of the punctures have been
snake bites but the majority have been thorns, bits of metal and glass.

Stephen \
  
Cicero wrote:
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <outlook.bugs@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 21:24:17 GMT, "Cicero" <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anybody any experience of these wonderful puncture resistant tubes or am I going to be
>>> disappointed?
>>
>> Kevar belted tyres offer some resistance to puncture weed, but only moderate. Hedgecutters are a
>> work of Stan :-(
>>
>> Guy
>> ===
>> May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
>> http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk (http://chapmancentral.demon.co.uk/)
>
> ================
> The shop didn't have Kevlar tyres in stock so I just bought the puncture resistant tube.
> Apparently it's quite in order to use both a kevlar tyre and a puncture resistant tube together so
> I will buy the kevlar tyre when it's available. That should provide virtual armour plated riding!

Don't get cocky!

\ Dave
  
"Cicero" <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Tim Dunne" <Bit_Bucket@Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:oCCTb.4987$os3.45645857@news-
> text.cableinet.net...
> > Cicero wrote:
> > : Any opinions very welcome...
> >
> > If they're stamped 'Dutch Perfect' (raleigh rebrands these) I've had a
> pair
> > of those on my hybrid for a year now and not one fatality. Very
pleased...
> >
> > Tim
> > --
> ==================
> No, it's stamped 'Cheng Shin Tube' but packed as 'Raleigh'. The shopkeeper stated that they
> haven't had a single return in over a year of sales but
he
> would, wouldn't he? Still, I'm hopeful!
>
> Cic.
>
>
errr... as long as they are only sold as puncture resistant, then you wouldn't really have a case to
return them...puncture proof would be a different matter. I used slime filled tubes for a couple of
years, 6 months of which was spent cycling up and down hawthorn strewn canal towpaths a couple of
times a day - never had a puncture that let me down. Pulled a fair few thorns out of the tyre and
spotted the glow in the dark green slime doing its job. Having said that, I've now got several bikes
that I use regularly, no specific anti-puncture measures in any of them and haven't had a puncture
since last March when I was doing the e2e and I had 6 in 2 days!!....I am seriously beginning to
believe that no matter what you do, if the p*nct*re fairy smiles on you, all will be well. Rule no.1
in avoiding punctures - don't p*ss off the p*nct*re fairy!! (probably by saying things like - "oh
yes, I'aven't 'ad a p*nct*re fer years!!")

Dave

\ Dave
  
"vernon levy" <not@home.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> > > >Has anybody any experience of these wonderful puncture resistant
tubes
> or
> > am
> > > >I going to be disappointed?
>
> My youngest son is the bane of my life. I'm sure that he's in league with the puncture repair kit
> industry as barely a week goes by without me
having
> to repair a puncture on his BMX
<snip> Aw, c'mon Vernon...if 'e's old enough t'ride it, 'e's old enough to fix 'is own
punctures ;-) Dave.

Steve
  
Who is this dastardly person, Stan? Can we stop him?

>
> Kevar belted tyres offer some resistance to puncture weed, but only moderate. Hedgecutters are a
> work of Stan :-(
>
> Guy

Vernon Levy
  
> <snip> Aw, c'mon Vernon...if 'e's old enough t'ride it, 'e's old enough to fix
'is
> own punctures ;-)

You want to see him try to use some common household items like door keys, can openers and
screwdrivers and you'd understand his inability to cope with puncture repairs. I have had some
entertaining moments assisting him and I'd rather him be out and about on his bike than it
languishing in the garage with punctures that he can't fix. Some folk have the knack and some don't.

Vernon

Ian Smith
  
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:54:30 -0000, vernon levy <not@home.net> wrote:
>
> > Aw, c'mon Vernon...if 'e's old enough t'ride it, 'e's old enough to fix 'is own punctures ;-)
>
> You want to see him try to use some common household items like door keys,

Tools and general mechanical/practical/DIY handiness, I've never had a problem with.

> Some folk have the knack and some don't.

But punctures I used to just not be able to fix. Some time about 15 years ago, however, the knack
appeared, fully developed, lodged in my brain. Before that day, a puncture meant hours of grief and
multiple fittings and removals of the tyre and general nashing of teeth. Since that day, I just
don't have a problem with them.

I haven't a clue what it was that changed. I thought it might be wheel size - I worked my way from
kids bikes to cast-off small-wheeled shoppers, getting to a decent Galaxy at about the time the
knack descended. However, my subsequent evolution to teh dark side reveals that 20" wheels don't
cause problems now, so I'm back to haven't a clue.

regards, Ian SMith
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Dave Larrington
  
steve wrote:
> Who is this dastardly person, Stan? Can we stop him?

Stan: http://legslarry.8bit.co.uk/Stan.htm

For example.

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\ Dave
  
"Dave Larrington" <legs_larry@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> steve wrote:
> > Who is this dastardly person, Stan? Can we stop him?
>
> Stan: http://legslarry.8bit.co.uk/Stan.htm
>
> For example.
>
> --
>
> Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
> ===========================================================
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> http://www.bhpc.org.uk/
> ===========================================================
>
...or as my mates used to call him, Stanley Atan.... Unfortunately he can never be stopped...because
he don't exist!!....one of the paradoxes that makes 'im so powerful ;-) Dave.

\ Dave
  
"vernon levy" <not@home.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> > <snip> Aw, c'mon Vernon...if 'e's old enough t'ride it, 'e's old enough to fix
> 'is
> > own punctures ;-)
>
> You want to see him try to use some common household items like door keys, can openers and
> screwdrivers and you'd understand his inability to cope
with
> puncture repairs. I have had some entertaining moments assisting him and I'd rather him be out and
> about on his bike than it languishing in the garage with punctures that he can't fix. Some folk
> have the knack and
some
> don't.
>
> Vernon
>
heh-heh, know what you mean. I've always left my eldest son (18 now) to get on with fixing his own
punctures, which he semed to manage alright. Then one day, I was in the same room while he was
doing it and had to fight hard to not laugh when I saw the 8 patches he'd used to try and contain
one very small puncture. I taught him about preparation that day and he's now down to one patch per
hole ;-) Dave.

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