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-Lsqnot Respond
  
I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.

Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?

Congokid
  
In message <0vc2201a2ngh16k1icc6gdl4k7e83apprv@4ax.com>, "[Not Responding]"
<not_responding@dev.null.invalid> writes
>I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>
>Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?

I started one up but got fed up after a few weeks.

An acquaintance who for the past few years poured his whole life, and then some, into his blog went
into semi-permanent retirement just before xmas. Have a look at http://www.troubleddiva.com/

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Simon Brooke
  
"[Not Responding]" <not_responding@dev.null.invalid> writes:

> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>
> Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?

I've written blogging software, but I'm not eating my own dogfood on this; my personal website is
entirely static. I do have a project to produce a 'dogfood' edition of my retail content management
system, which includes blogging capability, but it's low priority just now.

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Tim Hall
  
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:01:12 +0000, congokid
<newsabuse001@congokid.com> wrote:

>
>An acquaintance who for the past few years poured his whole life, and then some, into his blog went
>into semi-permanent retirement just before xmas. Have a look at http://www.troubleddiva.com/

Damn! I read that (from time to time). Small world, innit.

Tim

Colin Blackburn
  
On Wed, 4 Feb 2004 21:01:12 +0000, congokid <newsabuse001@congokid.com>
wrote:

> In message <0vc2201a2ngh16k1icc6gdl4k7e83apprv@4ax.com>, "[Not Responding]"
> <not_responding@dev.null.invalid> writes
>> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>>
>> Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?

Do you regular (routinely?) keep a paper or elctronic diary? If not then don't bother with a weblog
as you'll eventually let it slip.

> I started one up but got fed up after a few weeks.

See.

Colin
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Simian
  
[Not Responding] wrote:
> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.

There are a number of questions you need to ask yourself before starting a web log:

(1) Am I a teenage girl?
(2) Do I have something to say?
(3) Do I know hundreds of similar bloggers with whom I can cross link?
(4) Do I have a set of gramatical skills and litterary aesthetics that would cause the average
school teacher to weep?

If the answers are: yes, no, yes, & yes, respectively, go right ahead.

-Lsqnot Respond
  
On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 19:56:20 -0000, Simian
<Simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:

>[Not Responding] wrote:
>> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>
>
>There are a number of questions you need to ask yourself before starting a web log:
>
>(1) Am I a teenage girl?
>(2) Do I have something to say?
>(3) Do I know hundreds of similar bloggers with whom I can cross link?
>(4) Do I have a set of gramatical skills and litterary aesthetics that would cause the average
> school teacher to weep?
>
>
>If the answers are: yes, no, yes, & yes, respectively, go right ahead.
>

I thought there'd be a bit of cynicism.

Having spent a couple of days trawling round BlogWorld it seems me they fall into two camps. The
first is the semi cathartic stream of conciousness type thing (or stream of unconciousness in some
cases). Quite why anyone would want to do this, I don't really know.

The second group are the more focussed, themed sites. Here the blog tools allow easy & frequent
updating; something most DIY websites lack in abundance.

Combine this with the cross-linking, commenting and development of communities of interest and
you're getting the emergence of something more interesting. It was this angle that prompted me to
suggest blogs as a 'natural evolution' of lists & groups.

I've been posting to lists, groups and forums for years. [Anyone remember pre-domestic-internet days
of BBSs & Fidonet?[1]]. All that I've written is gone; some lingering on Google but all lost in
terms of any sense of personal ownership.

Hmm. I might dabble for a few weeks and see how I get on.

[1] While I'm on nostalgia, did anyone here ever come across a BBS called 'Home of the Gnome' or
similar? IIRC it was my first online connection. Circa 1985. At 300 baud presumably!

Simian
  
[Not Responding] wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 19:56:20 -0000, Simian
> <Simian@in_valid.semi-evolved.org> wrote:
>
>>[Not Responding] wrote:
>>> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>>
>>There are a number of questions you need to ask yourself before starting a web log:
>>(1) Am I a teenage girl?
>>(2) Do I have something to say?
>>(3) Do I know hundreds of similar bloggers with whom I can cross link?
>>(4) Do I have a set of gramatical skills and litterary aesthetics that would cause the average
>> school teacher to weep? If the answers are: yes, no, yes, & yes, respectively, go right ahead.
>>
>
> I thought there'd be a bit of cynicism.
[snip]
> The second group are the more focussed, themed sites. Here the blog tools allow easy & frequent
> updating; something most DIY websites lack in abundance.

On a more serious note, some blogs like http://dear_raed.blogspot.com (http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/) for example, provide a unique
insight into stuff that you'd otherwise not get. Others allow groups of friends to keep in touch,
without all that time consuming talking to each other, and as you say, there are the themed ones
that have useful info on them.

Once you get rid of that 2% tho, the rest are ****e.

> Combine this with the cross-linking, commenting and development of communities of interest and
> you're getting the emergence of something more interesting. It was this angle that prompted me to
> suggest blogs as a 'natural evolution' of lists & groups.

Possibly, it certainly has the added attraction of being able to listen to other people even less
than happens on usenet... However, I think human nature will force it's way through the technology,
and most of it would be a bit rubbish, with just the odd pearl.

> I've been posting to lists, groups and forums for years. All that I've written is gone; some
> lingering on Google but all lost in terms of any sense of personal ownership.

For most people, that would be a blessed relief, but I'll give you the benifit of the doubt.

Vernon Levy
  
> I've been posting to lists, groups and forums for years. [Anyone remember pre-domestic-internet
> days of BBSs & Fidonet?[1]]. All that I've written is gone; some lingering on Google but all lost
> in terms of any sense of personal ownership.

I certainly remember Fidonet with fondness along with one or two other networks, Wildcat being one
of them. I also remember shelling out £200 for a 2400 baud modem and the eager anticipation of
receiving replies to posted messages
>
> [1] While I'm on nostalgia, did anyone here ever come across a BBS called 'Home of the Gnome' or
> similar? IIRC it was my first online connection. Circa 1985. At 300 baud presumably!

Yep the Gnome at home had quite a high profile at one stage largely because it supported multiple
telephone lines and was subscription free. Many of the BBS systems were a labour of love and cost
their owners appreciable amounts of money and time to maintain.

I often wonder whether any BBS systems have survived.

As for web logging, it's your choice.

TTFN

Vernon in Leeds

Rick
  
"[Not Responding]" <not_responding@dev.null.invalid> wrote in message
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> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>
> Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?

Not me, but having read the replies on this thread, I was wondering if there are any cycling related
web logs out there. Some kind of racing cyclist, for example, or a long distance tourer like Josie
Dew. It would be fascinating to read their personal experiences and insights on a regular basis.

So, does anyone know of any?

Just Zis Guy
  
Do - and I suggest you publicise it by spamming every newsgroup on the hierarchy every month, as
well as sending spam email to a list scarfed from Usenet and spammers' address CDs.

What the hell, it worked for Tony Lance ;-)

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Guy
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> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>
> Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?

Richard Bates
  
On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:27:34 +0000 (UTC), in
<bvvtn6$ppb$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, "Rick" <nomail@me.pls> wrote:

>
>"[Not Responding]" <not_responding@dev.null.invalid> wrote in message
>news:0vc2201a2ngh16k1icc6gdl4k7e83apprv@4ax.com...
>> I know it's unlikely to be read but it sort of seems like natural evolution from lists & groups.
>>
>> Anyone dabbled either as creator or reader?
>
>Not me, but having read the replies on this thread, I was wondering if there are any cycling
>related web logs out there. Some kind of racing cyclist, for example, or a long distance tourer
>like Josie Dew. It would be fascinating to read their personal experiences and insights on a
>regular basis.
>
>So, does anyone know of any?
>

Does www.mark-ju.net count?
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