Dan Connelly
Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
Dan
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
Dan
tape those vents
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Bob Schwartz
Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
> Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
Swim caps look better though.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
> Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
Swim caps look better though.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
Arthur Clune
Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote:
: One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
: trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
I take it you had electronic timing then? Going to 1/100 sec with human timers in spurious accuracy.
The reaction time variance for most people is way more than that.
Arthur
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: One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
: trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
I take it you had electronic timing then? Going to 1/100 sec with human timers in spurious accuracy.
The reaction time variance for most people is way more than that.
Arthur
--
Arthur Clune http://www.clune.org (http://www.clune.org/) "Technolibertarians make a philosophy out of a personality defect"
- Paulina Borsook
Kurgan Gringion
"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
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> Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
> > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> >
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
>
> One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
> trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
Dumbass -
It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
news:102hskjedi8ip96@corp.supernews.com...
> Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
> > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> >
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
>
> One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
> trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
Dumbass -
It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
Bob Schwartz
Arthur Clune <ajc22@york.ac.uk> wrote:
> Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote:
> : One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
> : trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
> I take it you had electronic timing then? Going to 1/100 sec with human timers in spurious
> accuracy. The reaction time variance for most people is way more than that.
Actually, declaring a tie while hand timing was one of the things that convinced us to go to
electronic timing. That happened a couple of years earlier.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
> Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote:
> : One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
> : trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
> I take it you had electronic timing then? Going to 1/100 sec with human timers in spurious
> accuracy. The reaction time variance for most people is way more than that.
Actually, declaring a tie while hand timing was one of the things that convinced us to go to
electronic timing. That happened a couple of years earlier.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
Bob Schwartz
Kurgan Gringioni <kgringioni.remove@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message news:102hskjedi8ip96@corp.supernews.com...
>> Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
>> > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
>> >
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
>>
>> One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
>> trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
> It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
We're non-USAC. So not only do we allow recumbents, we allow them with no restrictions. In other
words, we've already crossed that particular bridge. I'm pretty sure we've had people show up in
tube socks.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
> "Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message news:102hskjedi8ip96@corp.supernews.com...
>> Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
>> > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
>> >
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
>>
>> One year we had to have our timer go to 1/100 sec to determine a cash paying position at a time
>> trial. Taping helmet vents is not such a crazy thing to do.
> It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
We're non-USAC. So not only do we allow recumbents, we allow them with no restrictions. In other
words, we've already crossed that particular bridge. I'm pretty sure we've had people show up in
tube socks.
Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com
Dan Connelly
> It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
Next time I see Eric I'll mention you think so.
Dan
P.S. TdL has quite particular rules on the time trial. They allow aero bars, but not disk wheels,
etc. I don't know how the rules extend to helmets.
WRT taping the vents and hundredths of a second -- I'd guess 10 seconds more than 0.01 seconds is
more to the mark of the time saved in a time trial of that length (~ 20min). It would be relatively
easy to conduct a crude test, I suspect, with a head foam.
Next time I see Eric I'll mention you think so.
Dan
P.S. TdL has quite particular rules on the time trial. They allow aero bars, but not disk wheels,
etc. I don't know how the rules extend to helmets.
WRT taping the vents and hundredths of a second -- I'd guess 10 seconds more than 0.01 seconds is
more to the mark of the time saved in a time trial of that length (~ 20min). It would be relatively
easy to conduct a crude test, I suspect, with a head foam.
Andy Coggan
> > Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
> > > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> > >
>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
Is the entire Canadian squad riding Cervelo Soloists, or just Wohlberg?
Andy Coggan
> > > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> > >
>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
Is the entire Canadian squad riding Cervelo Soloists, or just Wohlberg?
Andy Coggan
Scott Hendricks
Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message news:<g56Wb.23341$Vo4.20492@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>...
> Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
>
> Dan
Can you say 'placebo'? Unless he's tested that setup in the windtunnel, there's no way to know how
much, if at all, he improved his drag numbers. Hell, he may have made it worse!
Of course, there's no doubt he has affected his cooling capability.
S.
> Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_9558
>
> Dan
Can you say 'placebo'? Unless he's tested that setup in the windtunnel, there's no way to know how
much, if at all, he improved his drag numbers. Hell, he may have made it worse!
Of course, there's no doubt he has affected his cooling capability.
S.
Jeff Jones
"Andy Coggan" <acoggan@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:LD9Wb.22706$uM2.18769@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_ 9558
>
> Is the entire Canadian squad riding Cervelo Soloists, or just Wohlberg?
>
Green certainly isn't:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_ 9579
Jeff
news:LD9Wb.22706$uM2.18769@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > > Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_ 9558
>
> Is the entire Canadian squad riding Cervelo Soloists, or just Wohlberg?
>
Green certainly isn't:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/feb04/langkawi04/index.php?id=05/IMG_ 9579
Jeff
Kurgan Gringion
"Dan Connelly" <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message
news:%l9Wb.11231$hN1.7130@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> > It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
>
> Next time I see Eric I'll mention you think so.
>
> Dan
>
> P.S. TdL has quite particular rules on the time trial. They allow aero
bars,
> but not disk wheels, etc. I don't know how the rules extend to helmets.
>
> WRT taping the vents and hundredths of a second -- I'd guess 10 seconds more than 0.01 seconds is
> more to the mark of the time saved in a time
trial
> of that length (~ 20min). It would be relatively easy to conduct a crude test, I suspect, with a
> head foam.
Dumbass -
I said it wasn't crazy but it is Fredly.
news:%l9Wb.11231$hN1.7130@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> > It's not crazy but it is Fredly.
>
> Next time I see Eric I'll mention you think so.
>
> Dan
>
> P.S. TdL has quite particular rules on the time trial. They allow aero
bars,
> but not disk wheels, etc. I don't know how the rules extend to helmets.
>
> WRT taping the vents and hundredths of a second -- I'd guess 10 seconds more than 0.01 seconds is
> more to the mark of the time saved in a time
trial
> of that length (~ 20min). It would be relatively easy to conduct a crude test, I suspect, with a
> head foam.
Dumbass -
I said it wasn't crazy but it is Fredly.
Greg Hall
Dan Connelly <d_j_c_o_n_n_e_l@i_e_e_e.o_r_g> wrote in message news:<g56Wb.23341$Vo4.20492@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>...
> Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
No, but this guy put it to very good 'unFredly' use:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2000/oct00/worldtrack/boardman1.shtml
Greg Hall
> Hey, I thought I was the only one to tape helmet vents:
No, but this guy put it to very good 'unFredly' use:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2000/oct00/worldtrack/boardman1.shtml
Greg Hall
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