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I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg F),
I'd like to get back to running.
What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
I do find I sweat quite a bit and its my neck that I am worried about. It becomes very wet with
perspiration. I'm afraid that my body termperature will go down too much and of catching a cold or
something. What's the best way to combat excess persperation? I mean, a lot of perspiration is
expected, I just don't want my body temperature to drop too low.
Thanks!
At that temp (40-50 f), you are ok with shorts and a long sleeve shirt. The closer to 40f, you might
want to consider gloves, but I don't.
In article <6ors205gkmn6iedbufq93b75dhor514925@4ax.com>, ttjjekk119234 wrote:
> I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost
You're living in the North Pole, right ? (-;
> about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks. I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up
> to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg F), I'd like to get back to running.
>
>
> What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
> question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
Shorts are fine above 40. I'd go with a lightweight synthetic long sleeve top in the 40-50 range.
> I do find I sweat quite a bit
What kind of clothing are you wearing ? You should stay pretty dry in that temperature range -- it's
a sweat spot where it's warm enough that you don't need to wear too much but cool enough that you
don't (or shouldn't) overheat. Maybe you're dressing too warm ?
> and its my neck that I am worried about. It becomes very wet with perspiration. I'm afraid that my
> body termperature will go down too much
Unlikely. At worst, you'll suffer minor discomfort. You shouldn't need to cover your neck at that
temp, so the sweat will evaporate unless humidity is very high.
> and of catching a cold or something.
Catching a cold doesn't have anything to do with feeling cold.
> What's the best way to combat excess persperation? I
Wear appropriate clothing -- this reduces the chances of excess perspiration in the first place, and
also increases the chances that when you sweat, it will evaporate.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
First... all of your running gear should be 'technical' clothes so that it wicks away moisture
instead of holding is next to your skin making you cold and clammy. With that in mind... here's how
I dress... (as you will see... it's all about layering)
+10C and up -- Shorts & T-shirt
+10C to +5C -- Shorts and a lightweight long sleeve shirt
+5C to -5C -- Loose fitting technical running pants over wind breifs, winter weight long sleeve,
running 'shell' jacket, running gloves (optional), summer running cap
-5C to -10C -- Mid-zero running tights over wind breifs, winter weight long sleeve, running 'shell'
jacket, running mitts (warmer than gloves), winter running cap
-10C to -15C -- Mid-zero running tights over wind breifs, winter weight long sleeve, running
'shell' jacket, running mitts, winter running cap, neck gaitor or, if it's really windy, 'the
masque' face mask.
-15C to -20C -- Loose fitting technical running pants over tights over wind breifs, winter weight
long sleeve, running 'shell' jacket, running mitts over running gloves, touque, 'the masque'. You
might also add a thin, skin tight layer under your shirt or a flecce over your shirt
(i.e. a third torso layer).
Below -20C... I have gone out... but would probably recommend just staying in... unless it's dead
calm without any wind... at this temp, my eyes tear up and start freezing my eyelashes
together... some small snowboarding goggles would prevent that... but I'm not that desperate to
run when it's -25C :)
--
Nova Scotia, Canada
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:11:28 -0400, David <user@host.com> wrote:
>+10C to +5C -- Shorts and a lightweight long sleeve shirt
You forgot to mention that the OP should google 'ITB syndrome cures', 'cause that's what they'll
need if they follow your advice and prance around in shorts below c.7C.
"ttjjekk119234" <ttjjekk119234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6ors205gkmn6iedbufq93b75dhor514925@4ax.com...
> I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
> I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
> F), I'd like to get back to running.
>
>
> What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
> question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
The general guideline I've heard is to dress as though it were 20 degrees warmer than actual
temperature. This doesn't work for everyone, but it's a reasonable place to start (My tolerance
seems to be something more like +25). If you're going to buy one piece of cooler-weather running
wear, let it be a long-sleeved wicking t-shirt: perfectly serviceable ones can usually be had at
WalMart for 10-15 dollars. Much better than cotton, especially in cooler temps.
ttjjekk119234 <ttjjekk119234@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6ors205gkmn6iedbufq93b75dhor514925@4ax.com:
> I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
> I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
> F), I'd like to get back to running.
>
>
> What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
> question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
Dress yourself as you would if it were 20F (11C) degrees warmer and you were going out for normal
activity. For example, if it's 45F (7C) and you want to get dressed for a run, dress as if it were
65F (18C) and you are going outside for a stroll. However, if it is windy (more than 15 mph winds),
I would add a wind proof jacket or vest.
Also, check out this site: http://www.runnersworld.com/apparel/dress_form.html
Just plug in the temperature, wind speed, and conditions. It will tell you what to wear.
-Phil
S. Ender. wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:11:28 -0400, David <user@host.com> wrote:
>
> >+10C to +5C -- Shorts and a lightweight long sleeve shirt
>
> You forgot to mention that the OP should google 'ITB syndrome cures', 'cause that's what they'll
> need if they follow your advice and prance around in shorts below c.7C
I find +5C to be really warm... relatively speaking... more than warm enough for shorts... but
everyone is different. I did say "this is how I dress"... not "this is how everyone should dress". I
also did not realize that everyone's ITB was suddenly in danger at precicely +6C :P
--
Nova Scotia, Canada
<GreenEyesBlondHairCuteBum@greedyforyourlove.edu.fr>
> >+10C to +5C -- Shorts and a lightweight long sleeve shirt
>
> You forgot to mention that the OP should google 'ITB syndrome cures', 'cause that's what they'll
> need if they follow your advice and prance around in shorts below c.7C.
Nonsense. I've been doing it for years.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org "What?" she whispered, "D'you think that'll work?"
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:57:35 -0500, "SwStudio"
<shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Nonsense. I've been doing it for years.
Oh, well that's that sorted. My mistake.
Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc2sumc.ffn.abuse@panix2.panix.com>...
> In article <6ors205gkmn6iedbufq93b75dhor514925@4ax.com>, ttjjekk119234 wrote:
> > I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost
>
> You're living in the North Pole, right ? (-;
>
> > about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks. I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up
> > to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg F), I'd like to get back to running.
> >
> >
> > What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
> > question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
>
> Shorts are fine above 40. I'd go with a lightweight synthetic long sleeve top in the 40-50 range.
>
> > I do find I sweat quite a bit
>
> What kind of clothing are you wearing ? You should stay pretty dry in that temperature range --
> it's a sweat spot where it's warm enough that you don't need to wear too much but cool enough that
> you don't (or shouldn't) overheat. Maybe you're dressing too warm ?
>
> > and its my neck that I am worried about. It becomes very wet with perspiration. I'm afraid that
> > my body termperature will go down too much
>
> Unlikely. At worst, you'll suffer minor discomfort. You shouldn't need to cover your neck at that
> temp, so the sweat will evaporate unless humidity is very high.
>
> > and of catching a cold or something.
>
> Catching a cold doesn't have anything to do with feeling cold.
>
> > What's the best way to combat excess persperation? I
>
> Wear appropriate clothing -- this reduces the chances of excess perspiration in the first place,
> and also increases the chances that when you sweat, it will evaporate.
>
> Cheers,
The OP doesn't sound like a candidate for running at all. My 7 year old would say, What a
major wuss".
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:28:31 +0000, "What?\" she whispered, \"D'you
think that'll work?"
<GreenEyesBlondHairCuteBum@greedyforyourlove.edu.fr> wrote:
>You forgot to mention that the OP should google 'ITB syndrome cures', 'cause that's what they'll
>need if they follow your advice and prance around in shorts below c.7C.
You think so? Do tell.
In article <Xns948FA3613B29Dseilogramp@216.77.188.18>, Phil M. wrote:
> ttjjekk119234 <ttjjekk119234@yahoo.com> wrote in news:6ors205gkmn6iedbufq93b75dhor514925@4ax.com:
>
>> I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
>> I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
>> F), I'd like to get back to running.
>>
>>
>> What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
>> question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
>
> Dress yourself as you would if it were 20F (11C) degrees warmer and you were going out for normal
> activity.
This might be common advice, but it's not good advice. The problem is that your cooling requirements
are different when you run. For example, your hands and ears don't get a whole lot warmer as a
result of running, but your legs and upper body do. So for example, it's not unusual to wear shorts
and gloves when running, but it's seldom that one chooses such attire for "normal" activity.
> For example, if it's 45F (7C) and you want to get dressed for a run, dress as if it were 65F (18C)
> and you are going outside for a stroll.
Again, the difference is that you're much more likely to wear shorts for running. A long sleeved top
combined with shorts is common running attire, but less common for normal clothing.
> However, if it is windy (more than 15 mph winds), I would add a wind proof jacket or vest.
You're joking, right ? 45 degrees and you're putting on a windproof jacket ? Ouch. That's a severe
overkill. FWIW, I wear my SportHill top with a windproof front, but only if it's under 40 degrees. A
vest with a mesh back would be a workable replacement, but a windproof jacket is a huge overkill.
Over 40 and I wear a lightweight top (regardless of the wind). YMMV of course, but the conditions
he's describing simply aren't that cold.
Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/
ttjjekk119234 wrote:
> I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
> I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
> F), I'd like to get back to running.
Why wait? Enjoy the seasons, esp. the beautiful winter wonderland, assuming you've got snow and not
just frozen ground.
>
>
> What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
> question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
Many people wear shorts at those temperatures. Some wear tights or pants, esp. if leg muscles feel
tight or if they run better with warmer legs. It depends on what works for you. At those
temperatures, one synthetic layer is probably all you need while running. If you're sweating at
those temperatures, then you may be able to use both short-sleeve top and bottom.
>
> I do find I sweat quite a bit and its my neck that I am worried about.
Sweating is the body's way of not overheating. If you're sweating, you can probably run in cooler
temperatures than you thought.
> It becomes very wet with perspiration. I'm afraid that my body termperature will go down too much
> and of catching a cold or something. What's the best way to combat excess persperation?
You probably don't want to "combat excess persperation" as this is the body's way of maintaining
core temperature and not overheating. You will *need* sweat production when the temperatures get
much above 40-50F. These are actually considered close to ideal running temperatures, or a little on
the warm side, by many people. You could run outside when it's cooler with the same layers you're
using and sweating. Wicking materials can help wick the moisture away.
> I mean, a lot of perspiration is expected, I just don't want my body temperature to drop too low.
As long as you're moving and in positive energy balance and hydrated, hypothermia (body's inability
to maintain its temperature up to normal) is not too likely at 40-50F. If you're running long
(multiple hours) in cold, driving rain or if you stop and stand around wet - like after a race, then
hypothermia could be a real possibility. But with 3-5 mile runs (< 1 hr) at those temperatures, it's
not likely.
Dot
--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope
"I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg F),
I'd like to get back to running."
Check out this website on injuries and proper attire.
http://www.drpribut.com/sports/sportframe.html
--
R.Robinson
"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> You're joking, right ? 45 degrees and you're putting on a windproof jacket
?
> Ouch. That's a severe overkill. FWIW, I wear my SportHill top with a
windproof
> front, but only if it's under 40 degrees. A vest with a mesh back would be
a
> workable replacement, but a windproof jacket is a huge overkill.
>
> Over 40 and I wear a lightweight top (regardless of the wind). YMMV of
course,
> but the conditions he's describing simply aren't that cold.
I would totally agree with you, but:
a) people live in differing climates and get accustomed to differing temps, with corresponding
comfort levels. I have (well, had) relatives in the Bahamas and I remember seeing them don old
coats and hats when it dropped below 60F... thick sweaters and stuff. Even if the original poster
is from a winter climate, it does not matter. Surely you can recall friends who both always seem
to be complaining about the cold or are wearing no jacket in late November when everyone else is?
People really are unique when it comes to environmental comfort levels.
b) age accounts for a huge amount of all of this. People just can't take the cold or the heat as
well as they get older. The body becomes less efficient. And this ties into .....
....c) speed. When I go for an 8k tempo in January at say, 20F, it's going to take me 30 minutes
or so and I will be hot and sweating profusely in my lightest tights and thin long-sleeved
shirt. I could easily take my shirt off and run without one, once I'm halfway and fully warmed
up. Conversely, if I go for a walk in that weather, I am cursing the bitterness and end up
hailing a cab.
Older people (and less fit people) simply cannot work up the sort of body heat that you may be able
to, and I think you need to take that into account when making statements like the one above.
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org
Dot <dot.h@#att.net> wrote in message news:<1_DXb.22491$hR.619183@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> ttjjekk119234 wrote:
> > I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
> > I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
> > F), I'd like to get back to running.
>
> Why wait? Enjoy the seasons, esp. the beautiful winter wonderland, assuming you've got snow and
> not just frozen ground.
>
> >
> >
> > What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
> > question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
>
> Many people wear shorts at those temperatures. Some wear tights or pants, esp. if leg muscles feel
> tight or if they run better with warmer legs. It depends on what works for you. At those
> temperatures, one synthetic layer is probably all you need while running. If you're sweating at
> those temperatures, then you may be able to use both short-sleeve top and bottom.
>
> >
> > I do find I sweat quite a bit and its my neck that I am worried about.
>
> Sweating is the body's way of not overheating. If you're sweating, you can probably run in cooler
> temperatures than you thought.
>
>
> > It becomes very wet with perspiration. I'm afraid that my body termperature will go down too
> > much and of catching a cold or something. What's the best way to combat excess persperation?
>
> You probably don't want to "combat excess persperation" as this is the body's way of maintaining
> core temperature and not overheating. You will *need* sweat production when the temperatures get
> much above 40-50F. These are actually considered close to ideal running temperatures, or a little
> on the warm side, by many people. You could run outside when it's cooler with the same layers
> you're using and sweating. Wicking materials can help wick the moisture away.
>
>
> > I mean, a lot of perspiration is expected, I just don't want my body
> > temperature to drop too low.
>
> As long as you're moving and in positive energy balance and hydrated, hypothermia (body's
> inability to maintain its temperature up to normal) is not too likely at 40-50F. If you're running
> long (multiple hours) in cold, driving rain or if you stop and stand around wet - like after a
> race, then hypothermia could be a real possibility. But with 3-5 mile runs (< 1 hr) at those
> temperatures, it's not likely.
>
> Dot
Let me say it a different way and I won't come back to this thread. If a person needs to be told or
has to ask others how to dress when they go out to run, the probably should stay inside. Some
runners enjoy 30° running in shorts and others wear a hat at 50°. Do what makes you comfortable.
Don't expect some formula or the next guy to tell you.
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 14:01:10 -0500, ttjjekk119234
<ttjjekk119234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
>I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
>F), I'd like to get back to running.
>
>
>What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
>question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
>
>I do find I sweat quite a bit and its my neck that I am worried about. It becomes very wet with
>perspiration. I'm afraid that my body termperature will go down too much and of catching a cold or
>something. What's the best way to combat excess persperation? I mean, a lot of perspiration is
>expected, I just don't want my body temperature to drop too low.
Thanks for the input. I will probably start running sooner than I thought (say 5-7 deg C). I just
don't have it me to run when its much cooler. Hey it's supposed to be -15 deg C tonight (don't know
about the windchill).
Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in
news:slrnc2tuit.l5u.abuse@panix2.panix.com:
> In article <Xns948FA3613B29Dseilogramp@216.77.188.18>, Phil M. wrote:
>> ttjjekk119234 <ttjjekk119234@yahoo.com> wrote in news:6ors205gkmn6iedbufq93b75dhor514925@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I took up runnning last year but quit when it became too cold. Lost about 12-15lbs in 5-6 weeks.
>>> I've been running 5-8KM (3-5 miles) As soon as the weather warms up to 8-10 degrees C (45-50 deg
>>> F), I'd like to get back to running.
>>>
>>>
>>> What do I wear? Any tips on what clothing is appropriate? (i have checked the FAQ but see next
>>> question). Are shorts really okay at that temperature.
>>
>> Dress yourself as you would if it were 20F (11C) degrees warmer and you were going out for normal
>> activity.
>
> This might be common advice, but it's not good advice. The problem is that your cooling
> requirements are different when you run. For example, your hands and ears don't get a whole lot
> warmer as a result of running, but your legs and upper body do. So for example, it's not unusual
> to wear shorts and gloves when running, but it's seldom that one chooses such attire for "normal"
> activity.
>
>> For example, if it's 45F (7C) and you want to get dressed for a run, dress as if it were 65F
>> (18C) and you are going outside for a stroll.
>
> Again, the difference is that you're much more likely to wear shorts for running. A long sleeved
> top combined with shorts is common running attire, but less common for normal clothing.
>
>> However, if it is windy (more than 15 mph winds), I would add a wind proof jacket or vest.
>
> You're joking, right ? 45 degrees and you're putting on a windproof jacket ? Ouch. That's a severe
> overkill. FWIW, I wear my SportHill top with a windproof front, but only if it's under 40 degrees.
> A vest with a mesh back would be a workable replacement, but a windproof jacket is a huge
> overkill.
>
> Over 40 and I wear a lightweight top (regardless of the wind). YMMV of course, but the conditions
> he's describing simply aren't that cold.
>
> Cheers,
Oh yeah, I fogot - YMMV. ;-)
-Phil
"MaxAluminum" <im.1.maxaluminum@xoxy.net> wrote in message
news:3ccd82ea.0402150734.49de5b7f@posting.google.com...
>
> Let me say it a different way and I won't come back to this thread. If a person needs to be told
> or has to ask others how to dress when they go out to run, the probably should stay inside. Some
> runners enjoy 30° running in shorts and others wear a hat at 50°. Do what makes you comfortable.
> Don't expect some formula or the next guy to tell you.
I disagree with you on this assertion. As a novice runner, I sought advice on how to handle running
in colder temperatures because it made sense to get advice from those more experienced in the
situation. I was given a number of good resources and some general good advice and was able to get
the clothes I needed to run comfortably.
Jenn
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