My Photos of Paris

Trg

For those interested, some of the pix I took on Sunday can be seen at
http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/

-trg

Tom Paterson

>From: "trg"

>For those interested, some of the pix I took on Sunday can
>be seen at http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/
>

Gracias, encore if possible. --TP

B. Lafferty

Thanks you!! Very nice. More, please.
"trg" <trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.std.com> wrote in message
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> For those interested, some of the pix I took on Sunday can
> be seen at http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/
>
> -trg

Victor

very nice
"trg" <trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.std.com> wrote in message
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> For those interested, some of the pix I took on Sunday can
> be seen at http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/
>
> -trg

John Forrest To

Nice pictures.

Interesting that some riders have bottles on their TT bikes.

http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
%20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG

JT

Howard Kveck

In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:

> Nice pictures.
>
> Interesting that some riders have bottles on their
> TT bikes.
>
> http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
> %20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>
> JT

That is interesting. Ekimov's is empty - I wonder if he
started with it like that, or if he tossed the bottle.
I'm still trying to figure out what's up with Dekker's
helmet. It looks like some '60s motorcycle lid. Plus the
strange way it sits way back on his head. http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Dekker2-
%20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG

--
tanx, Howard

Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
R: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
anything with a skull on it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Jiyang Chen

They outlawed his usual Giro aero helmet because it
didn't comply with the stricter safety laws for the new
cycling year.

"Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
news:YOURhoward-03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net...
> In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>
> > Nice pictures.
> >
> > Interesting that some riders have bottles on their TT
> > bikes.
> >
> >
http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
%20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JP G
> >
> > JT
>
> That is interesting. Ekimov's is empty - I wonder if he
> started
with it
> like that, or if he tossed the bottle. I'm still trying to
> figure out what's up with Dekker's helmet. It looks like
> some '60s motorcycle
lid.
> Plus the strange way it sits way back on his head.
>
http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Dekker2-
%20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>
> --
> tanx, Howard
>
>Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
>A: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
> anything with a skull on it.
>
> remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Ewoud Dronkert

On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:05:47 GMT, Howard Kveck wrote:
> what's up with Dekker's helmet. It looks like some '60s
> motorcycle lid.

Apparently nowadays aero helmets must provide crash
protection.

> Plus the strange way it sits way back on his head.

That was strange yes, and not intended I think. The
first thing he did when crossing the line was shove his
helmet forward.

Dan Connelly

Jiyang Chen wrote:
> They outlawed his usual Giro aero helmet because it
> didn't comply with the stricter safety laws for the new
> cycling year.
>
> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in
> message news:YOURhoward-
> 03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net...
>
>> In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
>> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Nice pictures.
>>>
>>>Interesting that some riders have bottles on their
>>>TT bikes.
>>>
>>>
>
> http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
> %20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>

Studies have shown bikes are more aero with water bottles
than without. They "fill in" the hole in the main triangle,
improving air flow. Linked to
http://www.analyticcycling.com/

Dan

Michael Zaharis

Dan Connelly wrote:
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
>
>> They outlawed his usual Giro aero helmet because it
>> didn't comply with the stricter safety laws for the new
>> cycling year.
>>
>> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in
>> message news:YOURhoward-
>> 03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net...
>>
>>> In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
>>> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nice pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that some riders have bottles on their TT
>>>> bikes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
>> %20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>>
>
>
> Studies have shown bikes are more aero with water bottles
> than without. They "fill in" the hole in the main
> triangle, improving air flow. Linked to
> http://www.analyticcycling.com/
>
> Dan

See the "Rider Aero Study" article, based on John Cobb's
work, on the menu at the right of the
analyticcycling.com site.

Michael Zaharis

Dan Connelly wrote:
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
>
>> They outlawed his usual Giro aero helmet because it
>> didn't comply with the stricter safety laws for the new
>> cycling year.
>>
>> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in
>> message news:YOURhoward-
>> 03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net...
>>
>>> In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
>>> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nice pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that some riders have bottles on their TT
>>>> bikes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
>> %20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>>
>
>
> Studies have shown bikes are more aero with water bottles
> than without. They "fill in" the hole in the main
> triangle, improving air flow. Linked to
> http://www.analyticcycling.com/
>
> Dan

See the "Rider Aero Study" article, based on John Cobb's
work, on the menu at the right of the
analyticcycling.com site.

Michael Zaharis

Dan Connelly wrote:
> Jiyang Chen wrote:
>
>> They outlawed his usual Giro aero helmet because it
>> didn't comply with the stricter safety laws for the new
>> cycling year.
>>
>> "Howard Kveck" <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in
>> message news:YOURhoward-
>> 03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net...
>>
>>> In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
>>> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nice pictures.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting that some riders have bottles on their TT
>>>> bikes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Joachim2-
>> %20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>>
>
>
> Studies have shown bikes are more aero with water bottles
> than without. They "fill in" the hole in the main
> triangle, improving air flow. Linked to
> http://www.analyticcycling.com/
>
> Dan

See the "Rider Aero Study" article, based on John Cobb's
work, on the menu at the right of the
analyticcycling.com site.

Brian Roth

Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message news:<YOURhoward-03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net>...
> In article <t2ls409qvl0o9qpl30aug8q94c99a5a94c@4ax.com>,
> John Forrest Tomlinson <usenetremove@jt10000.com> wrote:

>
> That is interesting. Ekimov's is empty - I wonder if he
> started with it like that, or if he tossed the bottle.
> I'm still trying to figure out what's up with Dekker's
> helmet. It looks like some '60s motorcycle lid. Plus
> the strange way it sits way back on his head. http://wontyouspammebaby.free.fr/Dekker2-
> %20Paris%20Nice%20Stage%201.JPG
>
As someone else pointed out, the familiar head fairings are
now banned. So, an aero helmet has to acually provide some
protection. Dekkers does look like straight out of the 60's.
Note that every one else has a normal road helmet.

Lance has mentioned a new TT helmet in the works. We
probobly wont see it till July....

Jenko

brian roth wrote:
>
>As someone else pointed out, the familiar head fairings are
>now banned. So, an aero helmet has to acually provide some
>protection. Dekkers does look like straight out of the
>60's. Note that every one else has a normal road helmet.

In Murcia we could see other non-standard models http://gra- (http://gra-/)
hamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/04murciaSt2/$file/10.-
jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/04murci-
aSt2/$file/8.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/i-
mages/04murciaSt2/$file/4.jpg

Jenko

Jeff Jones

"Jenko" <sallyjenko@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:404f49c2.206428258@news...
>
> In Murcia we could see other non-standard models http://g- (http://g-/)
> rahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/04murciaSt2/$file-
> /10.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/images/0-
> 4murciaSt2/$file/8.jpg http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedo-
> cs.nsf/images/04murciaSt2/$file/4.jpg
>
> Jenko
>
Check out this one:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/mar04/parisnice/inde-
x.php?id=stage1/S UNDERLAND

Jeff

Greg Hall

Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message news:<YOURhoward-03F6BD.19054509032004@netnews.comcast.net>...
> That is interesting. Ekimov's is empty - I wonder if he
> started with it like that, or if he tossed the bottle.
> I'm still trying to figure out what's up with Dekker's
> helmet. It looks like some '60s motorcycle lid. Plus
> the strange way it sits way back on his head.

Scott Sunderland's 'aero' helmet is right out of a sci-fi
movie: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/mar04/parisni-
ce/index.php?id=stage1/SUNDERLAND

The Euro pros need to hook up with Louis Garneau.

Greg Hall

Tom Schulenburg

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
news:404f6ac1$0$13868$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be...
> >
> Check out this one:
>
>
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/mar04/parisnice/inde-
x.php?id=stage1/S
> UNDERLAND
>
> Jeff
>
>
Looks like something out of Spaceballs - The Movie

-T

Benjamin Weiner

brian roth <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> wrote:

> As someone else pointed out, the familiar head fairings
> are now banned. So, an aero helmet has to acually
> provide some protection. Dekkers does look like straight
> out of the 60's. Note that every one else has a normal
> road helmet.

> Lance has mentioned a new TT helmet in the works. We
> probobly wont see it till July....

If LANCE gets Giro to make him an aero helmet that meets the
CPSC standard (as well as the UCI), making it race-legal in
the US, every Fred and Fattie Master in the US is going to
want one. They will be more ubiquitous than carbon Treks.

For the sake of style, I hope he keeps the design
proprietary and not-available-in-stores, like his current
head-fairing (the one that only he and Millar get to wear).

Howard Kveck

In article <erst40lhreloibqecqckbq5tevo1endcr1@4ax.com>,
Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 03:05:47 GMT, Howard Kveck wrote:
> > what's up with Dekker's helmet. It looks like some '60s
> > motorcycle lid.
>
> Apparently nowadays aero helmets must provide crash
> protection.
>
> > Plus the strange way it sits way back on his head.
>
> That was strange yes, and not intended I think. The first
> thing he did when crossing the line was shove his helmet
> forward.

Well, that would explain it. I guess they should have
done a little more work on trying it out beforehand, so
they might have discovered this problem. Or provided him
with '65 Honda, a short-sleaved cotton workshirt and some
Raybans...

--
tanx, Howard

Q: Why did the metalhead cross the road?
R: Because he's a gullible moron who'll buy
anything with a skull on it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Steve

You guys are a real riot............

What do you think the state of cycling would be like if LA
never was????

Probably a few notches below "Badminton" as a
spectator sport..

On 3/10/04 8:09 PM, in article 404fe678$1@darkstar,
"Benjamin Weiner" <bjw@mambo.ucolick.org> wrote:

> brian roth <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> As someone else pointed out, the familiar head fairings
>> are now banned. So, an aero helmet has to acually provide
>> some protection. Dekkers does look like straight out of
>> the 60's. Note that every one else has a normal road
>> helmet.
>
>> Lance has mentioned a new TT helmet in the works. We
>> probobly wont see it till July....
>
> If LANCE gets Giro to make him an aero helmet that meets
> the CPSC standard (as well as the UCI), making it race-
> legal in the US, every Fred and Fattie Master in the US is
> going to want one. They will be more ubiquitous than
> carbon Treks.
>
> For the sake of style, I hope he keeps the design
> proprietary and not-available-in-stores, like his
> current head-fairing (the one that only he and Millar
> get to wear).

My Photos of Paris - Nice 2004