Hard rubbish haul

Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, as I managed to sight a few possibilities on the ride home last night that must have just recently appeared, dashed home and got the wagon, then under the cover of darkness elusively stole them away :-) (Took photos but due to the darkness and my over-excitement, they're a tad blurry!)

Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de France 1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition. Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which have an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded groupset.

Exhibit B: 'Viceroy' brand thing. Looks like it used to be a Suntour 6 speed. Highlights: Attached dynamo by the BB and front/rear lights - here's hoping they still work after some TLC!

Exhibit C: 'Hopper' brand MTB - from NZ it appears. Only redeeming feature are the horizontal dropouts, decent cantilever brakes and reasonably clean frame.

Plans? Well, A & B might serve as the fixie/ss/townie that I'm considering. They're a tad smallish (on the 56ish side I think), but that might not matter so much with a hack/shop bike - mmm... Brooks saddle, full mudguards, chainguard, wicker basket... them's the plan. Unfortunately there's no seatposts in either of these and ye olde 27inch wheels, but I'll work with that.

As for the Hopper? Hmm... I think that'll end up on our nature strip soon enough unless someone out there has a desire for it.

Also seen: One ancient ladies ss bike in Balwyn Rd in that wonderful rust brown patina. Methinks it had completely seized, but I'm debating it as a lovely piece of garden artwork!

Thanks god for consumerist excess :-)

Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good idea tho.
perhaps i need to learn how to weld...

Does London do hard rubbish days?

hippy

No, it's up to the individual to take it to the tip.

flyingdutch wrote:
> eddiec Wrote:
>
>>Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, ....
>>
>
>
> Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good
> idea tho.
> perhaps i need to learn how to weld...
>
>

A welding class is next on my list as soon as the MBA studies have
finished. What an excuse to buy new tools!

DaveB

"eddiec" wrote in message...
>
> Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, as I managed to
> sight a few possibilities on the ride home last night that must have
> just recently appeared, dashed home and got the wagon, then under the
> cover of darkness elusively stole them away :-) (Took photos but due to
> the darkness and my over-excitement, they're a tad blurry!)
>

I'm tempted to scour the streets in the darkness.. but argh, cbf.. Imagine
the day we start seeing CF frame bikes thrown out in hard waste...

<dream>
"yeah, found this '25 model Google CF frame* last night and built a 2kg
commuter"....
</dream>

Be sure to post your daytime pics of your pickings eddiec!

cheers,
GPL
:* what won't they do by 2025?:

eddiec wrote:

SNIP
>
> Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de France
> 1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition.
> Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which have
> an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded groupset.
>
SNIP

A Rayleigh Scorpio - my first ever road bike! I can even remember
drooling over the Rayleigh catalogue of the time and imagining that
if I had that bike, I'd never need to need another one. Look at
all those gears! 10 of them! I think mine had chromed steel rims.
I paid for it by helping my Dad on a building site. I bought it from
a small shop in Adelaide - called "Cranks" I think - don't know if
they're still there. I remember the centre-pull brakes and I think
my bike had the brake-lever extensions across the top of the bars.
Hmm, have to check some old photos.

Did me great service including a two week tour of Tasmania, Jan 1981
(just after I finished year 12). I sold it many years later to someone
who owned if for about a month before it was stolen of their front porch.

Ah, memories...

DeF

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Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify... At this stage I don't even know which of the pile of wheels i picked up from the same load goes onto it!

Eddie,
Check out retroraleighs.com

Here's the USA 1977 catalog
http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1977/index.html

It's not listed, but if you can identify the components you can see where in
the line up it fits in.

I have a 1974 Super Course MkII, now the only original parts are the
frame/fork, headset, brake/lever, stem & bars. The rest is new/ebay and
built up into a nice commuting fixie.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/7991/img37692pr.jpg

I'm using the Weinmann centre-pull brake on the front, but with Kool-Stop
salmon pads, They *just* reach 700c wheels without scrubbing the sidewall,
provide decent stopping power and huge amounts of clearance for big tyres &
fenders. I spent a few hours pulling them down and cleaning out all the
gunk, then polishing the arms, greasing the bushes etc.
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6...ntbrake1cj.jpg

If you really want to restore, I have a lot of parts left over, eg; 27"
Weinnman rims, Normandy hubs, Stronglight crankset & BB to suit.

Andrew.

"eddiec" <eddiec.1uap5y@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:eddiec.1uap5y@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
> Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes
> would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify... At this
> stage I don't even know which of the pile of wheels i picked up from the
> same load goes onto it!
>
>
> --
> eddiec
>

Riding home through the streets of Vermont there are many a bikes to be had but I keep on telling myself I'm over collecting bikes from the rubbish collection.

Anyway all I do now is just go to a friends place who has not moved on like I and view his backyard full of old bikes. He has 10 good bikes ready to be used at some stage, probably never.

Thanks for that. Spec wise it appears to be close to this: http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1977/pages/08-77-record-limited.html

Of course, it's hard to tell when the derailleur's missing, as well as a few other bits (hmm... what size seatposts do these damn things take!)... Good to know 700c's fit.

"eddiec" <eddiec.1uatnq@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:eddiec.1uatnq@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
>>
> Thanks for that. Spec wise it appears to be close to this:
> http://www.retroraleighs.com/catalog...d-limited.html
>
> Of course, it's hard to tell when the derailleur's missing, as well as
> a few other bits (hmm... what size seatposts do these damn things
> take!)... Good to know 700c's fit.

2030 steel, not awesome, but not gaspipe. Would be a good beater but doesn't
deserve a proper resto. Clearly perfect fixie material.

As far as the seatpost goes. I bought a 26.4 and turned it down on a lathe
to 26.2.

Sheldon to the rescue again:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/seatpost-sizes-m-z.html#r
Would be safest to measure the seat tube with verniers though.

flyingdutch wrote:
> eddiec Wrote:
>
>>Well, it seems FD hadn't picked Balwyn entirely clean, ....
>>
>
>
> Actually i did very little 'hunting'. the garden art thing is a good
> idea tho.
> perhaps i need to learn how to weld...

NOOOOO, don't go there.
You have been warned. {:-).



I'm almost totally hooked. Had a stick job for ~15 years and seriously
considering the rental on oxy gear after three years of evening welding
classes at Tafe (Oxy & Tig).

I'd buy a tig but I just don't have the hand steadiness and cheap tigs
are a waste of dosh IMO.

eddiec wrote:

> Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes
> would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify...

Have a look at Sheldon Brown's site. He has some info on old Raleighs,
and some links to more info.

I know this because a discussion with my next door neighbour about
needing to find a station bike [1] lead to him chucking an old Raleigh
over the fence, which if the internet can be believed dates back to
1973. I'm thinking the Suntour derailleur is a retrofit, if so.

Dave - who had to buy a new tyre, but otherwise it mostly works.

[1] A bike that looks crappy enough, and is cheap enough, that I can
ride it to the station and leave it there. Good for when I'm too lazy
to ride all the way to work.

eddiec wrote:

> DeF Wrote:
>
>>eddiec wrote:
>>
>>SNIP
>>
>>>Exhibit A m'lud: British made Raleigh Scorpio. By the 'Tour de
>>
>>France
>>
>>>1977' sticker I assume it's from then roughly. OK condition.
>>>Highlights: some funky centre-pull Raleigh/Weinmann calipers which
>>
>>have
>>
>>>an action i've never seen before, plus full Raleigh branded
>>
>>groupset.
>>
>>SNIP
>>
>>A Rayleigh Scorpio - my first ever road bike! I can even remember
>>drooling over the Rayleigh catalogue of the time and imagining that
>>if I had that bike, I'd never need to need another one. Look at
>>all those gears! 10 of them! I think mine had chromed steel rims.
>>I paid for it by helping my Dad on a building site. I bought it from
>>a small shop in Adelaide - called "Cranks" I think - don't know if
>>they're still there. I remember the centre-pull brakes and I think
>>my bike had the brake-lever extensions across the top of the bars.
>>Hmm, have to check some old photos.
>>
>>Did me great service including a two week tour of Tasmania, Jan 1981
>>(just after I finished year 12). I sold it many years later to
>>someone
>>who owned if for about a month before it was stolen of their front
>>porch.
>>
>>Ah, memories...
>>
>>DeF
>>
>>--
>>e-mail: d.farrow@finger.murdoch.edu.au
>>To reply, you'll have to remove finger.
>
>
>
> Ooh, yay. Information. Anything you know about the specs of these bikes
> would be terribly handy, as I'm looking to restore and modify... At this
> stage I don't even know which of the pile of wheels i picked up from the
> same load goes onto it!
>
>

I've dug up and scanned an old picture of me and the Scorpio. Not
sure how much use it will be - send me an e-mail and I'll send it
to you. I was going to put it up on my web page but there's something
wrong with our server connections at the moment.

Cheers,
DeF


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