Opinions needed on DT Swiss hubs (240s)

Hi everyone,

I would like to get any (good/bad) opinions on the DT Swiss 240s hubs
paired with Mavic Open Pro rims? My specific requirements for a
wheelset are:

Everyday wheel (150km a week) with some racing
Reasonably lightweight, low profile but must hold up under my large
frame(6'3, 90kg)
Hubs must be smooooooth. I had a pair of '97 Mavic Cosmic Pros some
time ago and the hubs were sweet. Looking to replicate that smooth
ride again.
Budget: AUD$1000-1700 for a wheelset.

An alternative factory built wheelset like Ksyrium ES or Campy Eurus is
a possibility.

Also, does anyone know of a good wheelbuilder in Sydney? I've heard
lots of good things about Pedal Pushers but wanted to find out in this
forum first.

Thanks in advance. Ride safe everyone and have a good weekend,

Regards,

Damo

damo72 wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to get any (good/bad) opinions on the DT Swiss 240s hubs
> paired with Mavic Open Pro rims?

I'm liking my 240 hubs laced up to Mavic 819d rims

> <snip>
>
> An alternative factory built wheelset like Ksyrium ES or Campy Eurus is
> a possibility.

Or have a look at some of the Wheelcraft stuff from Dirt Works

http://www.dirtworks.com.au/newsite/...Wheelcraft.jpg

> Also, does anyone know of a good wheelbuilder in Sydney? I've heard
> lots of good things about Pedal Pushers but wanted to find out in this
> forum first.

Mine were built by Inner City Cycles at Glebe & have copped a real
pounding; rocky trails, up & down stairs and the occasional small drop.

> Thanks in advance. Ride safe everyone and have a good weekend,
>
Will do

Parbs

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:07:51 +0000, Parbs wrote:

> I'm liking my 240 hubs laced up to Mavic 819d rims

I thought you were having some troubles with shifting?

> Mine were built by Inner City Cycles at Glebe & have copped a real
> pounding; rocky trails, up & down stairs and the occasional small drop.

Or DIY. I could also say good things about Hugh @ City Bike Depot and Brad
@ Bike Addiction, both of whom have been involved in wheelbuilds for me
before (though on at least one occasion that help consisted of passing
beer).

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Random Data wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:07:51 +0000, Parbs wrote:
>
>> I'm liking my 240 hubs laced up to Mavic 819d rims
>
> I thought you were having some troubles with shifting?

I can't get the computer control thingy to interface properly with the
SS cog. Or perhaps you were thinking about Spoon*Boy*

>> Mine were built by Inner City Cycles at Glebe & have copped a real
>> pounding; rocky trails, up & down stairs and the occasional small drop.
>
> Or DIY. I could also say good things about Hugh @ City Bike Depot and Brad
> @ Bike Addiction, both of whom have been involved in wheelbuilds for me
> before (though on at least one occasion that help consisted of passing
> beer).
>

Yup, these guys would be good. Seemed like everybody was in at CDB
today but do you think anyone offered me a coffee. Although I suspect
my next set of wheels will probably be DIY.

Parbs

damo72 wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I would like to get any (good/bad) opinions on the DT Swiss 240s hubs
> paired with Mavic Open Pro rims? My specific requirements for a
> wheelset are:
>
> Everyday wheel (150km a week) with some racing
> Reasonably lightweight, low profile but must hold up under my large
> frame(6'3, 90kg)
> Hubs must be smooooooth. I had a pair of '97 Mavic Cosmic Pros some
> time ago and the hubs were sweet. Looking to replicate that smooth
> ride again.
> Budget: AUD$1000-1700 for a wheelset.

That'll get you a very nice wheelset. The 240s hubs are superb. The
rims .. iffy. Mated to Mavic open pros and with DT spokes, you can't
go wrong.

Good alternatives aruond that price are Easton Circuits and Easton
Orion II's. Cheaper than their equivalent Ksyriums, and at least as
good, if not better hubs.

Hi Carl,

Thanks for your advice. Just wanted to clarify your comment about Open
Pros being iffy. Is it because of reports of cracking around the
eyelets or is it something else? Do you have any experience with any
alternative (good, tough) rims? Was thinking to mate the rims to DT
Competition spokes (as opposed to their Aerolites). Anyway, thanks for
your help, I think I'm definitely sold on the 240s now.....

Regards,

Damian

damo72 wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
> Thanks for your advice. Just wanted to clarify your comment about Open
> Pros being iffy.


I didn't call open pros iffy, the DT Swiss RR 1.1 rims are iffy. I
have never had a problem with open pros, and I have used a few of em

> Is it because of reports of cracking around the
> eyelets or is it something else?


Yes, see above, DT Swiss RR1.1's, *not* open pros. I personally know
of 2 DT Swiss RR1.1 rims that have failed in this manner - never seen
it with Open Pros (and the weight difference is 10 grams, so why take
the risk?)

> Do you have any experience with any
> alternative (good, tough) rims? Was thinking to mate the rims to DT
> Competition spokes (as opposed to their Aerolites). Anyway, thanks for
> your help, I think I'm definitely sold on the 240s now.....
>
> Regards,
>
> Damian

Ahhh, okay, the light dawns. Read it differently. Hence my question
as I thought open pros were pretty much the standard that other rims
were measured against.

The negative comments I've heard of open pros was on US forums
three/four years ago that talked about eyelet cracking. Was some
anodised vs non-anodised rim debate on Mavic rims.

Anyway, that's a moot point now. Didn't even know the difference was
10grams. A bit of bonus that. I'm not really a weight counter (more
worried about my bike holding up under *my* abuse) and had chosen the
open pros 'cos of their robustness and rigidity.

Thanks.

Damian

Interesting that you say that the R1.1's are iffy. Quite a few of the member of the club race on these and use them as their general comuting wheel and have no problems. I am currently getting a set built up on R1.2 (28 spoke) with ultegra hubs.

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jcjordan wrote:

> Interesting that you say that the R1.1's are iffy. Quite a few of the
> member of the club race on these and use them as their general comuting
> wheel and have no problems. I am currently getting a set built up on
> R1.2 (28 spoke) with ultegra hubs.

I hope you don't have the bad luck that I've seen others have. Maybe
there's a bad batch of the rims or something? I don't know, or, for
that matter, care. It's the manufacturer/importer's problem, not mine


For what it's worth, I have a front, 32 spoke radially laced RR1.1 with
a 240 hub and it's a great wheel and I've not seen any cracks in it
anywhere. But, two that I know of have (my sample size is 3, I'm the
lucky one, it seems)

the DT swiss have to be better then the crap that Bontrager puts out. 12 months and i am on my third set of rims (2 lots of warrenty claims)

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jcjordan wrote:
> the DT swiss have to be better then the crap that Bontrager puts out.
> 12 months and i am on my third set of rims (2 lots of warrenty claims)

Which ones in particular? I have some bontrager race-lite aeros and
apart from a crappy* rear hub freehub they're ok. I wouldn't have
bought them, but they came with the bike and have been generally ok.
Heavy, but pretty stiff and strong. 13,000km on the front one with no
problems, the rear is off as I swap cassettes often, and see the link
below for why.

* slightly unfair, they're probably ok with 9sp, but they die a bad
death with 10sp, see this :
http://www.aboc.com.au/images/galler...rager-freehub/

[QUOTE=Bleve]jcjordan wrote:
> the DT swiss have to be better then the crap that Bontrager puts out.
> 12 months and i am on my third set of rims (2 lots of warrenty claims)

Which ones in particular? I have some bontrager race-lite aeros and
apart from a crappy* rear hub freehub they're ok. I wouldn't have
bought them, but they came with the bike and have been generally ok.
Heavy, but pretty stiff and strong. 13,000km on the front one with no
problems, the rear is off as I swap cassettes often, and see the link
below for why.

My first set of Selects died about 6 months after i got them. the area of the rim around each spoke started to crack and break apart. Trek replaced them with Race, but i had to pay for the rebuild and new spokes. The new wheels started warp and bend within a month and after a number of truings became useless a couple of months later. Spoke to the mechanic at the shop and he said that this was a common problem with the low spoke count Bontrager wheels