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dave wrote:
>
<snip>
> THe end score is huge bruising and 2 cracked ribs. Interestingly they
> cracked right around the back near his spine. We should have the bike
> quote sometime today

I'm no expert, but ribs cracking right near the spine sounds like good
luck, with a bad luck version being some vertebrae cracking...

Tam

Tamyka Bell wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>THe end score is huge bruising and 2 cracked ribs. Interestingly they
>>cracked right around the back near his spine. We should have the bike
>>quote sometime today
>
>
> I'm no expert, but ribs cracking right near the spine sounds like good
> luck, with a bad luck version being some vertebrae cracking...
>
> Tam

Well its all gone a little weird. THey now say (The gp after getting the
Xrays that they aint cracked after all. Certainly he is getting around
OK. Not riding for a couple of weeks tho.

He got the quote back for the cennelli. Its about $600 which just seems
insane to me. Means its not a write off. But something is wrong with
the quote. They say shifter $280 or so Bars about $70 and the rest is
mostly labour and bits and pieces. The front wheel was a pretzel and
thats not mentioned. What about the forks. I wrote off a set of steel
forks in an accident at a third that speed. If the forks are ok how do
you tell? DOnt carbon forks need an xray? The frame being ok is
believable. Its a very strong frame. But if the carbon forks stood up
to it then next time I am getting a full carbon bike

I dont know. its all a little weird. THe quote was from Fitzroy cycles.
They have always been pretty good. Hmmmm

Dave

dave wrote:
>
> Tamyka Bell wrote:
> > dave wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>THe end score is huge bruising and 2 cracked ribs. Interestingly they
> >>cracked right around the back near his spine. We should have the bike
> >>quote sometime today
> >
> >
> > I'm no expert, but ribs cracking right near the spine sounds like good
> > luck, with a bad luck version being some vertebrae cracking...
> >
> > Tam
>
> Well its all gone a little weird. THey now say (The gp after getting the
> Xrays that they aint cracked after all. Certainly he is getting around
> OK. Not riding for a couple of weeks tho.
>
> He got the quote back for the cennelli. Its about $600 which just seems
> insane to me. Means its not a write off. But something is wrong with
> the quote. They say shifter $280 or so Bars about $70 and the rest is
> mostly labour and bits and pieces. The front wheel was a pretzel and
> thats not mentioned. What about the forks. I wrote off a set of steel
> forks in an accident at a third that speed. If the forks are ok how do
> you tell? DOnt carbon forks need an xray? The frame being ok is
> believable. Its a very strong frame. But if the carbon forks stood up
> to it then next time I am getting a full carbon bike
>
> I dont know. its all a little weird. THe quote was from Fitzroy cycles.
> They have always been pretty good. Hmmmm

That sounds very strange indeed. Carbon forks do indeed need an xray for
confirmation, although usually if there's been a sudden impact like
that, a bike shop that doesn't wanna pay for scans will usually write
off CF bits. If CF has been weakened, when it goes it'll go suddenly.
It's not like alu or steel where the cracks work their way through. It's
sudden. Crack! and you're A over T in agony. Maybe they overlooked the
front wheel. Either way it can't hurt to get a second quote, can it?

Tam

Wow, I stay away for a couple of days, and look at all the action I miss. Glad to hear you came out so well Dutchy, and hope your shoulders ok.


Dave, $600 sounds extreme, I got quoted significantly more to fix my ocr after its bingle a little while ago. Send me an email at lun15yAThotmailDOTcom if you/Ian want/need a hand with it.


Ash

Tamyka Bell wrote:
> dave wrote:
>
>>Tamyka Bell wrote:
>>
>>>dave wrote:
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>>THe end score is huge bruising and 2 cracked ribs. Interestingly they
>>>>cracked right around the back near his spine. We should have the bike
>>>>quote sometime today
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm no expert, but ribs cracking right near the spine sounds like good
>>>luck, with a bad luck version being some vertebrae cracking...
>>>
>>>Tam
>>
>>Well its all gone a little weird. THey now say (The gp after getting the
>>Xrays that they aint cracked after all. Certainly he is getting around
>>OK. Not riding for a couple of weeks tho.
>>
>>He got the quote back for the cennelli. Its about $600 which just seems
>>insane to me. Means its not a write off. But something is wrong with
>>the quote. They say shifter $280 or so Bars about $70 and the rest is
>>mostly labour and bits and pieces. The front wheel was a pretzel and
>>thats not mentioned. What about the forks. I wrote off a set of steel
>>forks in an accident at a third that speed. If the forks are ok how do
>>you tell? DOnt carbon forks need an xray? The frame being ok is
>>believable. Its a very strong frame. But if the carbon forks stood up
>>to it then next time I am getting a full carbon bike
>>
>>I dont know. its all a little weird. THe quote was from Fitzroy cycles.
>> They have always been pretty good. Hmmmm
>
>
> That sounds very strange indeed. Carbon forks do indeed need an xray for
> confirmation, although usually if there's been a sudden impact like
> that, a bike shop that doesn't wanna pay for scans will usually write
> off CF bits. If CF has been weakened, when it goes it'll go suddenly.
> It's not like alu or steel where the cracks work their way through. It's
> sudden. Crack! and you're A over T in agony. Maybe they overlooked the
> front wheel. Either way it can't hurt to get a second quote, can it?
>
> Tam


Yeah I think that thats a really good idea. Thanks Tam. I will cut and
paste this to him by email see what he says

Dave

On Thu, 18 May 2006 10:41:04 +1000, Tamyka Bell wrote:

> That sounds very strange indeed. Carbon forks do indeed need an xray for
> confirmation

Maybe for really expensive bits, but for anything bike related I'd say
it's cheaper and safer to just replace. You don't mess about with CF
components, particularly ones as critical as forks [1].

David, go get another quote, and get confirmation from the bike shop. Make
sure they're aware of what's happened. The bike may not be a write off,
but new wheel (or at least rim and rebuild), new forks, and a good check
of the headset need to be added to that quote from what you've said.

[1] I'm not going to be overly concerned if a CF bottle cage carks it. I
can live with the derailleur body going crack. Just about anything else is
going to cause injury unless you're very lucky.

--
Dave Hughes | dave@hired-goons.net
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. The opposite
of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. " - Niels Bohr

Camera? Near perimeter of army establishment? These days that would make you a terrorist. And it would be compulsory to shoot you!

SteveA

SteveA wrote:

> Camera? Near perimeter of army establishment? These days that would
> make you a terrorist. And it would be compulsory to shoot you!

I know, but about 15 or so years ago they were a bit more laid back and
made me a cup of tea instead But they put sugar in it In more
recent years the wee gate I jumped over is rather higher and topped
with razor wire, but I think in the frame of mind I was in at the time
even that wouldn't have been a barrier to me!

Graeme

GraemeDods@gmail.com wrote:
> SteveA wrote:
>
>
>>Camera? Near perimeter of army establishment? These days that would
>>make you a terrorist. And it would be compulsory to shoot you!
>
>
> I know, but about 15 or so years ago they were a bit more laid back and
> made me a cup of tea instead But they put sugar in it In more
> recent years the wee gate I jumped over is rather higher and topped
> with razor wire, but I think in the frame of mind I was in at the time
> even that wouldn't have been a barrier to me!
>
> Graeme
>

Ahh when I were a lad (sigh more than 20 years ago) you didn't need to
jump the fence at Watsonia Army Barracks, you just walked in the
(unguarded for 51 weeks a year*) gate. And if you didn't want to walk to
the gate you just climbed through the 3 strands of wire fence. It's all
changed a little since then.

*Only ever guarded for the annual week long protest and hippy march on
the USSR targetted radar dish.

dave wrote:
> Tamyka Bell wrote:
>
>>dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ian got cleaned up today. At the corner of Burnley and Clarke (I
>>>think... where the goat is anyway) st Richmond. He was heading south at
>>>about 7pm on his way home. The other party heading north turned up clark
>>>at the last possible second. Ian thinks he never touched the brake.
>>>Call it a 35 kph bingle.
>>>
>>>He is basically OK. Going to be really really sore in the morning. The
>>>cenelli might be a write off. THe front rim is gone.. I dont think I
>>>would trust the forks. The bars and the right shifter is mashed. We
>>>will find out about the rest when we get it looked at I guess.
>>>
>>>Other partys first words were "You should have had your lights on" Yeah
>>>rigggghhhht. Luckily Ian has witnesses. The lights were still on
>>>while it was lying on the road mind you.
>>>
>>>When I turned up to rescue him Ian had a half dozen asian admirers all
>>>happily taking his picture. I suspect he wont be going to work
>>>tomorrow tho. Will let you know more as I find it out.
>>
>>
>>I think if I witnessed an accident like that, with an incompetent driver
>>attempting to lay blame on a cyclist, I would be struggling to avoid
>>assault charges.
>>
>>All the best to Ian.
>>
>>Tam
>
>
> It was some old asian sod. Yeah I agree tho. Silly bugger is fine.
> Milking the sympathy all he can. He went back to work today.
>
> THe end score is huge bruising and 2 cracked ribs. Interestingly they
> cracked right around the back near his spine. We should have the bike
> quote sometime today
>
> Dave

And I was so annoyed in the 90's when our 'merkin friends packed up and
took our local landmark away ;-)
The Hippy protest made was a yearly highlight!

Morbidly though, (especially after seeing "The Day After" in the 80's) I
liked the idea that if it all went to sh*t, Watsie would be well and
truly nuked and it'd be all over quickly.

--
Pete.B

Never happen! Gagas and his strategic StarWars protection System (water rocket) woulda blown any commie nuke outta the sky

PS Gags, how's the injury comin along?