Hell Ride Bike Bullies - what is the answer? - Page 5

Resound wrote:
> "cfsmtb" <cfsmtb.2dg4do@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> news:cfsmtb.2dg4do@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com...
> >
> > rooman Wrote:
> >>
> >> hmmm wasnt that a Bruce Willis movie....?
> >>
> >> or 1984 back to haunt us...anyway its time for the Jetsons replays on
> >> tape..(runs to the kitchen for a tipple before tea)
> >
> > Sounded more like a scenario from 'Brazil'
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(film)).
> >
> Best.
> Movie.
> Evar.

Tuttle ...

But the point is, *technically* the problem of accountability is easy
to address. *socially* it is not so simple. I'm not advocating it,
just presenting the fact that it's easy to do.

On 2006-09-03, Theo Bekkers (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> I do actually care. The most dangerous thing I do every day is cross
> Beaufort St, Inglewood, outside my place of work. I cross twice to get the
> mail, twice more to do the banking, and twice again for lunch. It is a
> light-controlled crosswalk. If I left the kerb when the walk sign comes on,
> assuming the traffic will be stopped for their red light, I would be carted
> off in an ambulance on a weekly basis. This gives me a strong bias about
> crosswalk ettiquette.

It'd be a strong reason to carry a couple of long metal posts with you
(which we regularly do when we ship the "portable" 3D theatre screen
across the street to the town hall to give a public talk). Put it out
first. If a car hits, I doubt it'd do much damage to you -- you're
just in the middle of a balanced metal rod, acting as the axis, which
would only be rotated around fairly slowly (if the rod is long
enough). But the car, on the other hand, would have some significant
need for new panel work.

Actually, I see a need for light controlled pedestrian crossings where
great big iron bars come out from the sky and plant themselves down in
a line parallel to the pedestrian crossing. Effectively boom gates,
just.... more effective.

Yours, evilly
TimC.

TimC wrote:

> It'd be a strong reason to carry a couple of long metal posts with you
> (which we regularly do when we ship the "portable" 3D theatre screen
> across the street to the town hall to give a public talk). Put it out
> first.

Fess uup, you've been watching mothers with prams.

<shudder>

On 2006-09-04, Terryc (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> TimC wrote:
>
>> It'd be a strong reason to carry a couple of long metal posts with you
>> (which we regularly do when we ship the "portable" 3D theatre screen
>> across the street to the town hall to give a public talk). Put it out
>> first.
>
> Fess uup, you've been watching mothers with prams.

Nah, they've got the wrong dynamics.

--
TimC
> So, what do *you* do for a living?
I sit in a chair, pressing small plastic rectangles with my fingers
while peering at many tiny, colored dots. -- Peter Manders

TimC wrote:
> On 2006-09-03, Theo Bekkers (aka Bruce)
> was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
>
>>I do actually care. The most dangerous thing I do every day is cross
>>Beaufort St, Inglewood, outside my place of work. I cross twice to get the
>>mail, twice more to do the banking, and twice again for lunch. It is a
>>light-controlled crosswalk. If I left the kerb when the walk sign comes on,
>>assuming the traffic will be stopped for their red light, I would be carted
>>off in an ambulance on a weekly basis. This gives me a strong bias about
>>crosswalk ettiquette.
>
>
> It'd be a strong reason to carry a couple of long metal posts with you
> (which we regularly do when we ship the "portable" 3D theatre screen
> across the street to the town hall to give a public talk). Put it out
> first. If a car hits, I doubt it'd do much damage to you -- you're
> just in the middle of a balanced metal rod, acting as the axis, which
> would only be rotated around fairly slowly (if the rod is long
> enough). But the car, on the other hand, would have some significant
> need for new panel work.
>
> Actually, I see a need for light controlled pedestrian crossings where
> great big iron bars come out from the sky and plant themselves down in
> a line parallel to the pedestrian crossing. Effectively boom gates,
> just.... more effective.
>

Nice idea. How about something like the security screens in banks that
pop up out of the ground as the crosswalk light goes green.

--
BrettS

On 2006-09-04, BrettS (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> TimC wrote:
>> It'd be a strong reason to carry a couple of long metal posts with you
>> (which we regularly do when we ship the "portable" 3D theatre screen
>> across the street to the town hall to give a public talk). Put it out
>> first. If a car hits, I doubt it'd do much damage to you -- you're
>> just in the middle of a balanced metal rod, acting as the axis, which
>> would only be rotated around fairly slowly (if the rod is long
>> enough). But the car, on the other hand, would have some significant
>> need for new panel work.
>>
>> Actually, I see a need for light controlled pedestrian crossings where
>> great big iron bars come out from the sky and plant themselves down in
>> a line parallel to the pedestrian crossing. Effectively boom gates,
>> just.... more effective.
>
> Nice idea. How about something like the security screens in banks that
> pop up out of the ground as the crosswalk light goes green.

I have visions of ejected and/or squashed cars. Cool!

--
TimC
NOT A CHANCE! I know for a *fact* the kittens aren't frightened
by temporal anomalies. Clock watching simply ain't their bag.
John Schmidt in ARK

In aus.bicycle on Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:44:52 GMT
TimC <tconnors@no.spam.accepted.here-astro.swin.edu.au> wrote:
> I have visions of ejected and/or squashed cars. Cool!

Never mind the cars.

How high can they catapult a bike?

"Red Means Oh ****"

Zebee

In article <44fbaab5$0$4735$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
brett_the_vet@NOVIAGRATHANKS.optusnet.com.au says...

>
> Nice idea. How about something like the security screens in banks that
> pop up out of the ground as the crosswalk light goes green.
>
> --
> BrettS
>

or a row of these http://tinyurl.com/fg9jx

they wouldnt have to be too close together to help convince us cyclists
to not run the red.

I'm reminded of a program I saw a few years back on car safety that
suggested that as we make cars safer, people just speed up to
compensate. The theory is that if we feel safer, we automatically speed
up 'till we reach our comfort level. The best bit in the program was one
guys suggestion on how to really make people take more care. Remove the
seatbelts, ditch the air bags and put a large steel spike in the
steering wheel pointing directly at the driver. Would tend to focus the
mind on being careful.

--
Flaps

On 2006-09-04, flaps (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> In article <44fbaab5$0$4735$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> brett_the_vet@NOVIAGRATHANKS.optusnet.com.au says...
>
>> Nice idea. How about something like the security screens in banks that
>> pop up out of the ground as the crosswalk light goes green.
>
> or a row of these http://tinyurl.com/fg9jx
>
> they wouldnt have to be too close together to help convince us cyclists
> to not run the red.

That's just like the bollards on the anniversary trail.

--
TimC
Just don't create a file called -rf. :-)
-- Larry Wall in <11393@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>

flaps wrote:

> In article <44fbaab5$0$4735$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> brett_the_vet@NOVIAGRATHANKS.optusnet.com.au says...
>
>
>>Nice idea. How about something like the security screens in banks that
>>pop up out of the ground as the crosswalk light goes green.
>>
>>--
>>BrettS
>>
>
>
> or a row of these http://tinyurl.com/fg9jx

Holy crap Batman! That is a serious bollard!

--
BrettS

"TimC" wrote
> Theo Bekkers wrote
> > I do actually care. The most dangerous thing I do every day is
cross
> > Beaufort St, Inglewood, outside my place of work. I cross twice to
get the
> > mail, twice more to do the banking, and twice again for lunch. It
is a
> > light-controlled crosswalk. If I left the kerb when the walk sign
comes on,
> > assuming the traffic will be stopped for their red light, I would
be carted
> > off in an ambulance on a weekly basis. This gives me a strong bias
about
> > crosswalk ettiquette.
>
> It'd be a strong reason to carry a couple of long metal posts with
you
> (which we regularly do when we ship the "portable" 3D theatre screen
> across the street to the town hall to give a public talk). Put it
out
> first. If a car hits, I doubt it'd do much damage to you -- you're
> just in the middle of a balanced metal rod, acting as the axis,
which
> would only be rotated around fairly slowly (if the rod is long
> enough). But the car, on the other hand, would have some
significant
> need for new panel work.
>
> Actually, I see a need for light controlled pedestrian crossings
where
> great big iron bars come out from the sky and plant themselves down
in
> a line parallel to the pedestrian crossing. Effectively boom gates,
> just.... more effective.

I can normally deal with the cars that don't stop. The bicycles that
run between the already stopped cars and then run the red light are
more of a danger to me.

Theo

TimC wrote:

>
> [1] I will never understand why councils, in constructing local roads,
> feel obliged to provide free parking for residents. It's a very
> *very* inneficient use of space, given that the majority of time, for
> the majority of roads, the majority of the length of road doesn't have
> parked cars, but you still can't effectively drive in the "parking
> lane", because there are the occasional car parked blocking the path
> ahead. If you need a car parking space, you should be required to
> provide the space at your own expense on your own property, no?
>

Might I suggest they allow the developers to provide parking spaces to
increase the value of the land and allow the council to charge higher
rates for its residents.