The Thread about Nothing....

[jock.c]

Originally Posted by climbo

You racing tonight mr climbo?

[mrkott3r]

Originally Posted by jock.c

Sorry Kotter, I completely forgot to ask the dude at werk for the link to the HID crap. I'll try to remember tomorrow.

thats groovy. Itll be a week or so before I buy one. Just doing some research, but much appreciated. I think Ive figured out you arent really paying for the light you're paying for a battery.

[jock.c]

Originally Posted by mrkott3r

I think Ive figured out you arent really paying for the light you're paying for a battery.

You failed economics 101 didn't you Kotter? You're really paying for the retailer's bank overdraft.

[climbo]

Originally Posted by jock.c

You racing tonight mr climbo?

nope, you?

[jock.c]

Originally Posted by climbo

nope, you?

yup. difficult night of racing tho, being teams night. Italian + point-a-lap.

[Thylacine]

Originally Posted by matagi

Late night discussion by existence and thunder .....

Meanwhile Thylacine is curled up under his desk in the foetal position, making strange whimpering noises.

Actually I just woke up The brain doesn't deal well with marketing-speak first thing in the morning.

Okay, so I've had a read through everything. Good points everywhere.

On an ethics POV, I won't pay for editorial, directly or indirectly. Saying things like "You might want to advertise with us if we run this editorial" is a cop-out, so cyclingnews and Ride magazine is out from my understanding. If the media does not want to support local business and would rather lick the bums of the multinationals, I don't want any part in that.

The problem is I don't have the cash to swing USD300 an issue for a piddly little magazine advertisement and I'm not convinced it's effective advertising anyway. It's effective for the big companies because they have a large degree of saturation thoughout every issue, but one 1x3" thing in the back or a magazine for a grand a year? Can't see the value.

So obviously that leaves us with bro-deals and guerilla marketing and the internet. Well, I'm doing that in an okay way I think. Open to suggestions though, of course.

I'm interested in the Austrade thing and I'll keep that in mind, but some little design company that's sold a few dozen frames with no capital and **** cashflow? I'm not sure what they can do for me.

Cheers for the info guys and keep it comin'.

[ed073]

Originally Posted by 62vette

Quality silicone?

and the rest....to keep the Aussie theme, there was less grass on the wicket than the WACA on day 5 of a Test.

[mrkott3r]

Originally Posted by Thylacine

So obviously that leaves us with bro-deals and guerilla marketing and the internet. Well, I'm doing that in an okay way I think. Open to suggestions though, of course.

thylacine avatars everywhere!

[62vette]

A bit of kiwi nostalgia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvOi...=zealand%20ice

[classic1]

Thylo, existence, thunder.

Everyone knows there is more money in fish and chip shops than bicycles.

[jock.c]

... but you can'T win bike races on fast food. Unless you're Ryan Bayley

[jock.c]

Kotter:

If you want play night cricket in the park, the Topeak Whitelight HP is the latest and greatest. The 1W globe is about $80, the 3W about $180, the Li-Ion battery pack about $180. This battery pack is about the size and weight of a mobile phone and attaches to the stem.

http://www.topeak.com/2006/products/lights/wlhp3w.php

Looks like it's luxeon (LED), not HID.

[sabretech2001]

Originally Posted by Thylacine

Actually I just woke up The brain doesn't deal well with marketing-speak first thing in the morning.

Okay, so I've had a read through everything. Good points everywhere.

On an ethics POV, I won't pay for editorial, directly or indirectly. Saying things like "You might want to advertise with us if we run this editorial" is a cop-out, so cyclingnews and Ride magazine is out from my understanding. If the media does not want to support local business and would rather lick the bums of the multinationals, I don't want any part in that.

The problem is I don't have the cash to swing USD300 an issue for a piddly little magazine advertisement and I'm not convinced it's effective advertising anyway. It's effective for the big companies because they have a large degree of saturation thoughout every issue, but one 1x3" thing in the back or a magazine for a grand a year? Can't see the value.

So obviously that leaves us with bro-deals and guerilla marketing and the internet. Well, I'm doing that in an okay way I think. Open to suggestions though, of course.

I'm interested in the Austrade thing and I'll keep that in mind, but some little design company that's sold a few dozen frames with no capital and **** cashflow? I'm not sure what they can do for me.

Cheers for the info guys and keep it comin'.

Is designing/producing a lesser quality frame/bike to (hopefully) saturate the Club and/or unafilliated rider segment? Something with 105/Sora, and frame tubing to match, yet using your frame design, etc.

If it's possible, compare Trek and Lotus in the 80's: a bunch of mid quality bikes (albeit with some nicer bits than one would expect at the price point, esp Lotus) with a couple of diamonds and rubies at the top. Trek made it to the big time, or rather became the big time, and Lotus is gone, at least here in Merka.
Plus, you'll have made this conversation possible:

1st Rider: I see we've both got Thylazines.
2nd Rider: Sorry mate, that's a Thylazine, this here is a Thylazine.
1st: Wot's the diff?
2nd: If you have to ask...

Fistfight breaks out.

[Wilchemy]

Uh-oh. The tix have been purchased....I'm going to see Yngwie Malmsteen!

[jock.c]

Originally Posted by Wilchemy

Uh-oh. The tix have been purchased....I'm going to see Yngwie Malmsteen!

This thread really isn't like AA you know. You don't have to reveal your personal failings. I think it's understood that we're all equally pathetic.