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"Randy Rhine" <rrrhine@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
> > Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the
> > world is using Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates
> > problems that I don't get on IE. I
would
> > be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like
> > about IE. It
seems
> > fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up
> > too many web
sites.
> > What am I missing?
> >
> I like the way Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox has a personal
> toolbar on top for organizing bookmarks. I also like the
> tabbed-browsing feature. And I like that most viruses are
> targetted towards IE so not using it (or Outlook) makes me
> a little bit safer. And I think the file scheme that
> Netscape uses is cleaner and more straight foward than IE,
> which makes it easier to backup, and move to other
> computers. And I've been usng it for years so...why
> switch. It used to be that with the prior version of
> Netscape, every so often I would run across a web site
> that didn't work and would have to bring up IE to see it.
> Haven't had that problem since upgrading to Netscape 7
> about 8 months ago.

Randy, I am only concerned about viruses taking down my
computer. All the bells and whistles that you may get with
other browsers do not matter to me. I have tried Netscape
in the past and was not overly impressed. But I do worry
about viruses, worms, hackers, etc. I wonder if Firefox
might not be worth a try? I dread the thought of a new OS
such as Linux.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:46:00 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:

>Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the world
>is using Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates problems that
>I don't get on IE. I would be interested in hearing what it
>is that you don't like about IE. It seems fast but is
>sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too many web
>sites. What am I missing?
>
You are missing the fact that there are other computer
operating systems besides Windows and Macintosh.

"Bob Stan" <rsstan@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:46:00 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> >Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the
> >world is using Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates
> >problems that I don't get on IE. I
would
> >be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like
> >about IE. It
seems
> >fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up too
> >many web sites. What am I missing?
> >
> You are missing the fact that there are other computer
> operating systems besides Windows and Macintosh.

The only other one I am aware of is Linux. But is this not
jumping from the frying pan into the fire?

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

have the problem at home but not at work. I have accessed
the site from Both windows browsers (IE and Mozilla Firefox)
and Mac Browsers (Safari, Firefox) On Wednesday, I could not
get either frame to load at home. On Thursday, everything
worked at work but at home the top frame is still hanging.

The Message "waiting on 127.0.0.1" was suspicious. It refers
to the 'LocalHost" but the local host can be a local address
for the client or the server.

Looking at the code for the top frame, I found this
inclusion:

<script language='javascript'
src='http://127.0.0.1:1026/js.cgi?pa&r=28703'></script>

I think this is the reason for this problem that occurs for
some but not others. At home, I block almost all but the
well known ports to keep out hackers.

If you or your ISP are blocking port 1026, your page
will not load

http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager
http://www.clee.org
- Bellaire, TX USA -

> get along without you now!"
>
> But what are you recommending that I do to avoid all the
> problems that you foresee for the immediate future?
>

First off understand that it's not me warning you. I'm
passing on what I'm reading all over the web, and from
mainstream computer magazines.These guys get a ton of money
from MS so I doubt they are going to pull the plug early.
The recommendations are to go to Netscape or Mozilla
immediately and see what shakes out in the future. Nothing
needs to stop, just need to use a different program, which I
might add, has a TINY learning curve. Firefox is almost
indentical to IE in function. It's much smaller and
supposedly a little faster as well. MS is the 8000lb gorilla
here, but they most certainly aren't the only game in town!
It's also open source code, which means programmers
everywhere can improve it or make fixes, unlike MS which is
limited to their employees.

I have been running linux for the last couple of years,
recently switched back to windows for the ease of using a
"needed" problem, the question should be why is everyone
else using windows? I couldn't live with the hassle it takes
to keep it running online. Linux isnt' that hard to learn
and it takes much less work to keep it up,, howie

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message news:nuidnRuNqZZD5nPdRVn-
jg@prairiewave.com...
>
> "Bob Stan" <rsstan@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:ef-
> fgnanqrycuvnarg.i0kysa0.pminews@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:46:00 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >
> > >Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the
> > >world is using Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates
> > >problems that I don't get on IE. I
> would
> > >be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like
> > >about IE. It
> seems
> > >fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up
> > >too many web
sites.
> > >What am I missing?
> > >
> > You are missing the fact that there are other computer
> > operating systems besides Windows and Macintosh.
>
> The only other one I am aware of is Linux. But is this not
> jumping from
the
> frying pan into the fire?
>
> --
> Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Hmmm...I wonder what kind of hassles you are having to keep
Windows "running online". While Win98 used to freeze up once
or twice a week, since I switched to Win2k a while back, I
haven't had any problems. Rock solid.

dada's mail wrote:
> I have been running linux for the last couple of years,
> recently switched back to windows for the ease of using a
> "needed" problem, the question should be why is everyone
> else using windows? I couldn't live with the hassle it
> takes to keep it running online. Linux isnt' that hard to
> learn and it takes much less work to keep it up,, howie
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message news:nuidnRuNqZZD5nPdRVn-
> jg@prairiewave.com...
>
>>"Bob Stan" <rsstan@adelphia.net> wrote in message news:ef-
>>fgnanqrycuvnarg.i0kysa0.pminews@news1.news.adelphia.net...
>>
>>>On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:46:00 -0500, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why is anyone using Mozilla when everyone else in the
>>>>world is using Microsoft IE? Even Netscape creates
>>>>problems that I don't get on IE. I
>>
>>would
>>
>>>>be interested in hearing what it is that you don't like
>>>>about IE. It
>>
>>seems
>>
>>>>fast but is sometimes a bit unstable when you pile up
>>>>too many web
>
> sites.
>
>>>>What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>
>>>You are missing the fact that there are other computer
>>>operating systems besides Windows and Macintosh.
>>
>>The only other one I am aware of is Linux. But is this not
>>jumping from
>
> the
>
>>frying pan into the fire?
>>
>>--
>>Ed Dolan - Minnesota
>>
>>
>

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:08:54 -0700, Randy Rhine <rrrhine@comcast.net>
wrote in message <KMWdnR9d7MzFGnLdRVn-sA@comcast.com>:

>Hmmm...I wonder what kind of hassles you are having to keep
>Windows "running online". While Win98 used to freeze up
>once or twice a week, since I switched to Win2k a while
>back, I haven't had any problems. Rock solid.

I run a network of Windows machines. You want a list of the
problems? Windows is a giant job creation scheme for geeks.

Guy
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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <outlook.bugs@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:08:54 -0700, Randy Rhine
> <rrrhine@comcast.net> wrote in message <KMWdnR9d7MzFGnLdRVn-
> sA@comcast.com>:
>
> >Hmmm...I wonder what kind of hassles you are having to
> >keep Windows "running online". While Win98 used to freeze
> >up once or twice a week, since I switched to Win2k a
> >while back, I haven't had any problems. Rock solid.
>
> I run a network of Windows machines. You want a list of
> the problems? Windows is a giant job creation scheme
> for geeks.
>
> Guy

I know a couple of geeks (these are invariably young kids
between the ages of 18 and 21) and they both will have
absolutely nothing to do with Mac. They also do not like
Linux and are in fact both Windows fanatics. They tell me it
is the only way to go and that the sooner these other
operating systems go away the better. I do note that Wal-
Mart is now selling computers that include the Linux OS.

The problem for me is that it has taken me a long time to
get used to Windows and I dread the thought of learning
another OS. I guess I will wait and stay with Windows until
things get quite a bit worse. It may be that Microsoft will
get a handle on all the problems with Windows (mainly
security issues it seems to me).

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"dada's mail" <hschultz1@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I have been running linux for the last couple of years,
> recently switched back to windows for the ease of using a
> "needed" problem, the question should be why is everyone
> else using windows? I couldn't live with the hassle it
> takes to keep it running online. Linux isnt' that hard to
> learn and it takes much less work to keep it up,, howie

I have heard that refrain before about how someone switched
to Linux and then switched back to Windows because only
Windows could handle what it is they needed to do.

Basically, I can't be bothered with the technical aspects of
keeping up a computer. I am not interested in that any more
than I am interested in keeping up a TV or radio. They
either work or they don't work. I think the vast majority of
people fall into this category of person.

The geeks are different and enjoy playing around with
computers. I most surely do not want to get an operating
system where I have to play around with it in order to keep
it going. I am counting on Microsoft to solve all the
problems inherent with computers so that the rest of us (the
vast majority) do not have to become geeks in order to keep
the computer operational.

--
Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 23:08:54 -0700, Randy Rhine
> <rrrhine@comcast.net> wrote in message <KMWdnR9d7MzFGnLdRVn-
> sA@comcast.com>:
>
>
>>Hmmm...I wonder what kind of hassles you are having to
>>keep Windows "running online". While Win98 used to freeze
>>up once or twice a week, since I switched to Win2k a while
>>back, I haven't had any problems. Rock solid.
>
>
> I run a network of Windows machines. You want a list of
> the problems? Windows is a giant job creation scheme
> for geeks.
>
> Guy

Ah...a network of machines...that's different that a single
machine or small home network (like I have...4 machines). I
can understand that. For many years, I was a sysprog for a
large company. I and 1 other person supported 25,000 people
on an IBM mainframe runing VM. Then they started to migrate
to Unix and eventully to Windows...and the number of support
people increased dramatically. That's when I decided to
retire. I played around with Linus at home for a bit, but
got tired of it. Now I just want something that works so I
can do things that are more fun (like biking and
woodworking).

rr

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "dada's mail" <hschultz1@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:tJIHc.26362$SO5.9512@twister.socal.rr.com...
>
>>I have been running linux for the last couple of years,
>>recently switched back to windows for the ease of using a
>>"needed" problem, the question should be why is everyone
>>else using windows? I couldn't live with the hassle it
>>takes to keep it running online. Linux isnt' that hard to
>>learn and it takes much less work to keep it up,, howie
>
>
> I have heard that refrain before about how someone
> switched to Linux and then switched back to Windows
> because only Windows could handle what it is they
> needed to do.
>

The only time I need to boot into Windows (you can have
dual-booting machines, so you don't have to totally
abandon Windows) instead of Linux, is when I want to
download a different set of maps into my Garmin GPS. They
don't make a Linux version of their software. Other than
that, there's nothing I do, from web stuff to word
processing, from playing/burning CDs to working with
digital photographs, that I can't do on Linux with
software that is just as advanced, more stable, and MUCH
cheaper. As in, usually free.

> Basically, I can't be bothered with the technical aspects
> of keeping up a computer. I am not interested in that any
> more than I am interested in keeping up a TV or radio.
> They either work or they don't work. I think the vast
> majority of people fall into this category of person.
>
> The geeks are different and enjoy playing around with
> computers. I most surely do not want to get an operating
> system where I have to play around with it in order to
> keep it going. I am counting on Microsoft to solve all the
> problems inherent with computers so that the rest of us
> (the vast majority) do not have to become geeks in order
> to keep the computer operational.
>

--
Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY
http://home.fuse.net/larryvarney

On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:02:46 -0400, Larry Varney <lvarney@fuse.net>
wrote in message <NcWHc.12792$1F6.11357@fe37.usenetserver.com>:

> The only time I need to boot into Windows (you can have
> dual-booting machines, so you don't have to totally
> abandon Windows) instead of Linux, is when I want to
> download a different set of maps into my Garmin GPS.
> They don't make a Linux version of their software.

And if you had a Mac you could do that with VirtualPC :-D

Guy
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:07:05 -0700, Randy Rhine <rrrhine@comcast.net>
wrote in message <vs-dndQRgbQBvG3dRVn-iQ@comcast.com>:

>> I run a network of Windows machines. You want a list of
>> the problems? Windows is a giant job creation scheme
>> for geeks.

>Ah...a network of machines...that's different that a single
>machine or small home network (like I have...4 machines). I
>can understand that.

But the problems are the same, the machines break down if
anything less often than home ones because the software
environment is well controlled.

Guy
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 09:56:07 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
wrote in message <it-dnfor-fgMnm3dRVn-ig@prairiewave.com>:

>I know a couple of geeks (these are invariably young kids
>between the ages of 18 and 21) and they both will have
>absolutely nothing to do with Mac. They also do not like
>Linux and are in fact both Windows fanatics.

In which case they are not proper geeks. Real geeks love
anything Unix-like, are into Linux, can aceept MacOS X
because it has BSD under the hood, and hate Windows for too
many reasons to name.

Here's where to find real geeks: http://slashdot.org - note
that Bill is portrayed as Gates of Borg.

Guy
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