Recent recumbent experiences and related - Page 2

Tom Sherman <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message news:<3FCA2F97.F016DBF7@qconline.com>...

> "Lars S. Mulford" wrote:
> >
> > Howdy folks!
> >
> > Boy, things sure do seem rather negatively spirited in this newsgroup of late. I hope that this
> > is a cyclical thing and it goes away on its own. It makes an environment where people get turned
> > off and don't want to post. At any rate, I just wanted to wish everyone happy holidays! No
> > matter how bad things get, life is still good and is the neatest game in town. We had a saying
> > growing up that life is like playing a game of cards, and that you've only got two rules that
> > are non-negotiable. One, you can't fold. Two, you must play the hand you're dealt. We may get a
> > crappy hand now and again, but for me anyway, I'm just as happy to still be at the table and in
> > the game!...
>
> Yes, but the game is rigged.

Don't pay any attention to this asshole. He is a permanent malcontent and we all have his
number on ARBR.

It is posts like yours that refresh this newsgroup. Without them we would all die of terminable
boredom. Keep posting and do not pay any attention to assholes like Mr. Sherman. Leave the likes of
him to me.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Hi Lars,

I have limited vision in my left eye also. A handle bar end mirror has always worked for me (both on
an upright bike and on the GRR). I tried a helmet mirror with no success. You just can't get the
right angle, no mattter what side the mirror is on.

Diane (and Wayne) RANS Screamer, GRR, Haluzak Horizon "Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net> wrote
in message news:qJnyb.11915$i81.873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Howdy folks!
>
> Boy, things sure do seem rather negatively spirited in this newsgroup of late. I hope that this is
> a cyclical thing and it goes away on its own.
It
> makes an environment where people get turned off and don't want to post.
At
> any rate, I just wanted to wish everyone happy holidays! No matter how
bad
> things get, life is still good and is the neatest game in town. We had a saying growing up that
> life is like playing a game of cards, and that
you've
> only got two rules that are non-negotiable. One, you can't fold. Two,
you
> must play the hand you're dealt. We may get a crappy hand now and again, but for me anyway, I'm
> just as happy to still be at the table and in the game!
>
> Some recumbent thoughts I'd like to pass along:
>
> Yesterday, my youngest daughter (10) accompanied me to the bikeshop where
I
> bought my Tour Easy SS XL and my wifes EZ-1 Lite. While I was buying some things, she got the
> chance to ride a bunch of different recumbents. Did I think she'd enjoy them? Sure. Did I think
> she would become passionately hooked on them like her old man? No, but that is what happened! I
> literally had to pull her off the bikes (after 3 hours of solid riding
with
> no letup in sight) so we could go home. (The bikeshop is almost 200 miles from our home, so we had
> travel and traffic to face on the way home.) At any rate, she rode an Evox 140, a Wizwheelz
> Terratrike 3.4, and an EZ-1 Lite. She liked the look of the Evox 140 but didn't care much for the
seat.
> She loved the trike and the EZ-1 Lite. She ended up riding the EZ-1 Lite more than anything else.
> We're thinking of getting her an EZ-1 for Christmas. She said that she was more comfortable on it
> than on the
trike.
> The missus and I are considering it but want to make sure that this is a bike that she can really
> "grow" with, as she is already as tall as my 15
yr
> old daughter and is still growing! (While mom is short, dad is 6'7" and
has
> 4 other brothers, none who are under 6'4" and one who is 7'.) So, I just wanted to share that
> there is a real chance that the 'bent ranks will
quite
> possibly gain another trooper this Christmas, a young one with a real zeal and passion for
> 'benting.
>
> I'd also like to pass along some updates about my heavier friend, the one who had never ridden a
> bike and is committed to learning to ride and
losing
> weight. I took him to the bikeshop a few weeks back and the guys at the shop put him on uprights
> and rollers to get him a "feel" for pedaling.
They
> also put him on a recumbent in rollers for the same thing. He tried
several
> trikes and really did well with the EZ-3 AL. The good news? He did actually ride a recumbent! He
> rode about 100 yds, but that is a start.
He
> has already said that his bike purchase will be a recumbent, because it is much more comfortable
> for him. I thought it would be, but not for the reasons he mentioned. I was thinking about his
> back and whatnot... It turns out that the upright position hunches him over to the point that he
> does not breathe as freely as when he is in the recumbent position and leaning back. I hadn't
> thought about that, but that is a plus for the recumbents, I'd reckon. He did not go home with a
> recumbent, but plans to get one in February or March of 2004. Once again, thanks to everyone on
> here who had wonderful suggestions. You'll be happy to know that almost every one of them were
> deployed in getting my friend to the point where he could actually ride for a bit!
>
> Another update for you, and this one is about my wife. She's the lady who is blind in her left
> eye. We've still not had any real solutions. I
bought
> quite a few mirrors and tried to see if when we mount them on her glasses
or
> helmet, if she could use her right eye to see the mirror on the left. All the mirrors do not
> extend far enough out to where she could use her right eye to see things on the left with a
> mirror mounted on the left. We tried mounting them on the right and just having her turn her head
> a bit to the right to see things behind and to the left, but that hasn't been very successful
> either. Either she has to turn her head a good deal to make it work (which makes her nervous) or
> she still can't see things on her left, especially close to her left. I'm not giving up finding a
> solution for
her;
> I know there has got to be a simple and intuitive fix.
>
> Some lighting comments! I've been using a Cateye EL-300 as my headlight
and
> a Vistalite vertical blinker on the rear of my Tour Easy and I've been
very
> pleased with the amount of light the EL-300 throws out. I have it mounted behind my fairing and it
> shines through the fairing with no issues. A
nice
> and unintended feature is that it reflects a small portion of light down, lighting up the fairing
> somewhat which illuminates my bike computer
nicely!
> There is no reflected light directed backward and the EL-300 is amazingly powerful for it's size.
> I liked it so much that I bought another and now use two for headlights. I also have two Vistalite
> vertical blinkers on
the
> back now. In addition to the two EL-300s up front, I also have a Cateye EL-400 mounted underneath
> on the stem and set it to blinking mode when I ride. The end result is that I've got plenty of
> light to extend my riding from dusk to into the night. I don't ride on the roads much, mostly in
> my large development. I am amazed at how much light these LEDs produce.
>
> I reckon that's about it for now. Again, happy holidays to everyone!
>
> --
> "Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford "You can find evil anywhere you look. The question is, why are you
> looking?"

Tom Sherman <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message news:<3FCBE73D.899B7BC1@qconline.com>...

> "Lars S. Mulford" wrote:
> >
> > Howdy Tom:
> >
> > Is the opposite also true? Is it immoral to run a business like government?...
>
> I would see nothing wrong in running a business in the way a government SHOULD be run - maximizing
> the common good of all involved in the enterprise, (as opposed to the holders of capital
> exploiting the workers who are responsible for the added value that makes the business viable.

All government agencies are run according to their annual budgets which allow for so much
expenditure. They will always spend to the maximum of their budget allowed. Many businesses also
operate according to this system. It is a lousy system.

You accord too much weight to the the "workers" and not enough to the capital which makes it all
possible. But that is ever the mistake of liberal socialists who think all value inheres in labor.
Labor is only worth so much and no more (a truism for sure).

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Tom Sherman <tsherman@qconline.com> wrote in message news:<3FCBE73D.899B7BC1@qconline.com>...

> "Lars S. Mulford" wrote:
> >
> > Howdy Tom:
> >
> > Is the opposite also true? Is it immoral to run a business like government?...
>
> I would see nothing wrong in running a business in the way a government SHOULD be run - maximizing
> the common good of all involved in the enterprise, (as opposed to the holders of capital
> exploiting the workers who are responsible for the added value that makes the business viable.

All government agencies are run according to their annual budgets which allow for so much
expenditure. They will always spend to the maximum of their budget allowed. Many businesses also
operate according to this system. It is a lousy system.

You accord too much weight to the "workers" and not enough to the capital which makes it all
possible. But that is ever the mistake of liberal socialists who think all value inheres in labor.
Labor is only worth so much and no more (a truism for sure).

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan <edolan@iw.net> wrote:

: Don't pay any attention to this asshole. He is a permanent malcontent and we all have his number
: on ARBR.

: It is posts like yours that refresh this newsgroup. Without them we would all die of terminable
: boredom. Keep posting and do not pay any attention to assholes like Mr. Sherman. Leave the likes
: of him to me.

It's sad that our little sandbox is becoming a flame yard like the other cycling related newsgroups.

You people really want to end up in a killfile?

--
Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/hpv/hpv.html varis at no spam please iki fi

<risto.varanka@secure.from.spam.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
>
> It's sad that our little sandbox is becoming a flame yard like the other cycling related
> newsgroups.

Sadly, it's seemingly Mr. D.'s Andy Warhol moment.

He should be aware that vulgar/offensive/abusive language in his posts may violate the acceptible
use policy of his ISP. http://www.prairiewave.com/forms/aup.htm abuse@iw.net - Report Internet abuse
situations.

> You people really want to end up in a killfile?

Make his/their day.

Jon

Hi Lars:

Your wife might think of trying a Reevu helmet, It has a full rear view mirror ducted to the front
visor. http://www.reevu.com/ (Somewhere I picked up that tidbit today) Regards From Ottawa Harvey

"Lars S. Mulford" <mulford@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:<qJnyb.11915$i81.873@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>...

> Another update for you, and this one is about my wife. She's the lady who is blind in her left
> eye. We've still not had any real solutions. I bought quite a few mirrors and tried to see if when
> we mount them on her glasses or helmet, if she could use her right eye to see the mirror on the
> left. All the mirrors do not extend far enough out to where she could use her right eye to see
> things on the left with a mirror mounted on the left. We tried mounting them on the right and just
> having her turn her head a bit to the right to see things behind and to the left, but that hasn't
> been very successful either. Either she has to turn her head a good deal to make it work (which
> makes her nervous) or she still can't see things on her left, especially close to her left. I'm
> not giving up finding a solution for her; I know there has got to be a simple and intuitive fix.

"hmiller" <harveymillerca@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:329df2b4.0312031358.2de623bb@posting.google.com...
> Hi Lars:
>
> Your wife might think of trying a Reevu helmet, It has a full rear view mirror ducted to the
> front visor. http://www.reevu.com/ (Somewhere I picked up that tidbit today) Regards From
> Ottawa Harvey
>

Someone posted in the past that the problem with the Reevu with recumbents was because of the riders
more upright head position the mirrors ended up giving a great view of the ground behind them

Can anyone tell me what an "Edward Dolan" is and what vaccine works best to prevent its outbreak? Do
something worthwhile with your life....

risto.varanka@secure.from.spam.helsinki.fi wrote in message
news:<bql14h$gea$3@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>... [...]

> It's sad that our little sandbox is becoming a flame yard like the other cycling related
> newsgroups.
>
> You people really want to end up in a killfile?

Yes, I do, if it means that I do not have to answer every liberal stupidity that is posted on this
newsgroup with a comeback from the original dunce. You can see what that leads to. The posts just
get dumber and dumber. This way, if I am in their kill files, I will be able to answer their stupid
posts and they will not know what I have said about their posts and about them. Like ostriches, they
will have their heads stuck in the ground (deaf and dumb) and I will be kicking their elevated sorry
asses. The way I see it, I win and they lose.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

"Jon Meinecke" <jonmein@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:<ac99e7449c80a3aa6d704fab81de284c@news.teranews.com>...

> <risto.varanka@secure.from.spam.helsinki.fi> wrote in message
> >
> > It's sad that our little sandbox is becoming a flame yard like the other cycling related
> > newsgroups.
>
> Sadly, it's seemingly Mr. D.'s Andy Warhol moment.
>
> He should be aware that vulgar/offensive/abusive language in his posts may violate the acceptible
> use policy of his ISP. http://www.prairiewave.com/forms/aup.htm abuse@iw.net - Report Internet
> abuse situations.
>
> > You people really want to end up in a killfile?
>
> Make his/their day.
>
> Jon

Old fuss budget Jon Meinecke is at it again. This newsgroup is seemingly replete with jerks and
morons. I will put my posts up against any of those of the imbecilic liberals any day of the week.
All this bother about ISP's is totally ridiculous. Jon and his ilk are Nazis of course and would
like to dictate to the rest of us how we should post. Screw them all the way to hell and back! Those
of you who value freedom of speech will know what to think about these despicable liberals.

Jon is ever the scoundrel and is worthy of nothing but our utmost contempt. What a screwed up
dunderhead he is! If I were ever to kill file anyone he would be first on my list. But I will never
give him that satisfaction. No, I will read his pathetic posts until hell freezes over no matter how
much he nauseates me with his despicable liberal sentiments. I will always be here for him and to
show him up for the coward and scoundrel that he is.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

On 4 Dec 2003 07:50:34 -0800, edolan@iw.net (Edward Dolan) wrote:

>. Jon and his ilk are Nazis of course and would like to dictate to the rest of us how we should
> post. Screw them all the way to hell and back!

Not even with your ****.

"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote
> Jon and his ilk are Nazis

This is malicious slander and may be actionable. I expect a full public apology and retraction
forthwith.

In the meantime, I hereby invoke Goodwin's Law:

Professor Ralph Goodwin [...] noticed that newsgroup discussions which continued for a long time
tended to degrade.

He postulated the following: As the length of a newsgroup thread grows, the probability
approaches unity of some participant using the term "Hitler" or "Nazi". The party who first uses
such terms is immediately declared the loser of the thread and discussion stops at that point.

> [Jon] of course and would like to dictate to the rest of us how we should post.

I have done no such thing. It is, of course, Mr. D's own ISP's acceptable use policy that must be
his concern. Readers make their own decisions whether Mr. Dolan's posts warrant appropriate
complaint.

http://www.prairiewave.com/forms/aup.htm abuse@iw.net - Report Internet abuse situations.

By posting through Google, he has also agreed to their terms:

http://groups.google.com/googlegroup...ing_terms.html groups-abuse@google.com

Jon Meinecke

Man alive folks:

I can't believe that this thread started with me actually having the audacity to share a precious
moment, where my 10 yr old daughter rode a recumbent for the first time and became enamored with
it... Where have we gone astray here? Did NO ONE read my initial note? The ones that did and posted
helpful comments, I thank you!

While the newsgroup may be chock full o' liberal and conservative volleys and broadsides, there
still exists within here a legion of folks who actually read the notes to find content regarding
recumbent biking and the joys that coincide with it. I read what interests me and tune out the rest.

Life's too short to be spent at a keyboard firing off mean spirited comments here and there. There's
riding to be done! Get out and ride! I bet if half the people who write in grossly negative ways on
here could actually meet the people to which they take aim, perhaps folks would be singing different
tunes. Everyone's a big shot behind the monitor, where distance and to some extent a cloak of
anonymity exists. That kind of stuff matters little in the big scheme of things. If you're big
enough to type it, you should be big enough to back up your words. That's the problem though - folks
don't have to back up their words here and you get these silly and inane flame wars that cycle
throughout the year. I wonder how many of the negative posters on here would continue to do so if
they actually had to meet face to face with the folks they continued to broadside? Not all bikers
are 5'9" and 160lbs.

I'll continue to post on here with recumbent and related material. How about others doing same?

--
"Sea" ya! --Lars S. Mulford "You can find evil anywhere you look. The question is, why are
you looking?"

Jon, My apologies for top post. Don't you get it? Ed doesn't give a crap about anything but folks
responding to his posts. He's likely playing with himself while he reads any response, including
this one. bg

Jon Meinecke wrote:

> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote
> > Jon and his ilk are Nazis
>
> This is malicious slander and may be actionable. I expect a full public apology and retraction
> forthwith.
>
> In the meantime, I hereby invoke Goodwin's Law:
>
> Professor Ralph Goodwin [...] noticed that newsgroup discussions which continued for a long
> time tended to degrade.
>
> He postulated the following: As the length of a newsgroup thread grows, the probability
> approaches unity of some participant using the term "Hitler" or "Nazi". The party who first
> uses such terms is immediately declared the loser of the thread and discussion stops at that
> point.
>
> > [Jon] of course and would like to dictate to the rest of us how we should post.
>
> I have done no such thing. It is, of course, Mr. D's own ISP's acceptable use policy that must be
> his concern. Readers make their own decisions whether Mr. Dolan's posts warrant appropriate
> complaint.
>
> http://www.prairiewave.com/forms/aup.htm abuse@iw.net - Report Internet abuse situations.
>
> By posting through Google, he has also agreed to their terms:
>
> http://groups.google.com/googlegroup...ing_terms.html groups-abuse@google.com
>
> Jon Meinecke