Team vs Strada

I am looking at both the Strada and the Team. I would appreciate any input. I know both are good bikes and have their plusses and minuses. I would like to hear from Volae owners.

Thanks

MB

I've posted extensive reports in the last month on my new Volae team. So have some others. Search
the Yahoo Bacchetta forum, BROL forum and this NG.

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Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL "mjbass" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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> I am looking at both the Strada and the Team. I would appreciate any input. I know both are good
> bikes and have their plusses and minuses. I would like to hear from Volae owners.
>
> Thanks
>
> MB
>
>
>
> --

You DO realize that asking this question is like pouring gasoline on a fire???

I haven't seen such rabid partisanship re. brands since my early days reading this news group, when
rans people were much more vehement about being "the one, true BENT".

I , personally, ride a homebuilt high racer. As I ironed out the details of the bike, I found myself
favoring the details of the Volae. As to how the two designs compare; I'd be surprised if there was
any major difference. IT'S THE MOTOR!!

For the average rider, components are for bragging rights. They don't have a big effect on
performance until you need to accellerate or climb a lot. Even than, put a Lance Armstrong engine on
the cheapest heaviest home built and yourself on an Aero and guess who wins??? That said, the Alex
rims and Carbonfibre forks I have added to my HRC (High Racer Clone) did change the ride favorable,
I think. Of course, having spent the money to upgrade, what was I going to think??? (It's called
"cognitive disonance" in psych. circles. Your beliefs change to support your actions) "mjbass" <usenet-
forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:nG%Hb.13$%z1.3@fe08.private.usenetserver.com...
> I am looking at both the Strada and the Team. I would appreciate any input. I know both are good
> bikes and have their plusses and minuses. I would like to hear from Volae owners.
>
> Thanks
>
> MB
>
>
>
> --

I own a Volae Team and twice test-rode a Corsa and Aero. I did not see much difference. The Volae
Team gives you more for your money than the Corsa or Aero IF you value the high end components like
Dura Ace, SRAM X, Spartacus Pro ... and can live without the Aero's Titanium. Aero and Volae Team
weight are very close. Volae Team is more adjustable than the Aero, which is set up by the dealer
for one rider, the buyer. Dealers must charge sales tax on the Bacchettas. Hostel shop charges no
sales tax but charges $80 for shipping. I found my Volae's setup effortless.
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Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL "Tom Blum" <teblum@gate.net> wrote in message
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> You DO realize that asking this question is like pouring gasoline on a fire???
>
> I haven't seen such rabid partisanship re. brands since my early days reading this news group,
> when rans people were much more vehement about being "the one, true BENT".
>
> I , personally, ride a homebuilt high racer. As I ironed out the details
of
> the bike, I found myself favoring the details of the Volae. As to how the two designs compare; I'd
> be surprised if there was any major difference. IT'S THE MOTOR!!
>
> For the average rider, components are for bragging rights. They don't have
a
> big effect on performance until you need to accellerate or climb a lot.
Even
> than, put a Lance Armstrong engine on the cheapest heaviest home built and yourself on an Aero
> and guess who wins??? That said, the Alex rims and Carbonfibre forks I have added to my HRC (High
> Racer Clone) did change the ride favorable, I think. Of course, having spent the money to
> upgrade, what was I going to think??? (It's called "cognitive disonance" in psych. circles. Your
> beliefs change
to
> support your actions) "mjbass" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> news:nG%Hb.13$%z1.3@fe08.private.usenetserver.com...
> > I am looking at both the Strada and the Team. I would appreciate any input. I know both are good
> > bikes and have their plusses and minuses. I would like to hear from Volae owners.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > MB
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>

Robert,
Normally I agree with most of what you say,but here goes; The difference
between the Volae Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks, The
Volae has Dura-ace components, the Corsa has Ultegra, The Corsa has the
Terracycle tilt ,the best made IMO,I would give the nod on wheels to the
Team ,but not by much.
The Corsa has the FSA carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that to the
Corsa.
The brakes would go to the team since the front brake on the Corsa is
crap,which I've already changed to shimano.
The handlebars on the Team are kind of strange looking IMO.
Now since you were comparing buying from a dealer and paying sales tax or
buying from mail order and paying shipping, ,I bought my corsa from a LBS
and paid $2150. Rolf wanted $2995.for the Team. Is the Team worth almost
$850. more than a Corsa?
I say no.
Ben Fox
"Robert Siegel" <bobsiegel@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:qJhIb.563355$0v4.22805900@bgtns...rldnet.att.net...
> I own a Volae Team and twice test-rode a Corsa and Aero. I did not see
much
> difference. The Volae Team gives you more for your money than the Corsa
or
> Aero IF you value the high end components like Dura Ace, SRAM X,
Spartacus
> Pro ... and can live without the Aero's Titanium. Aero and Volae Team weight are very close. Volae
> Team is more adjustable than the Aero, which is set up by the dealer for one rider, the buyer.
> Dealers must charge sales tax on the
Bacchettas.
> Hostel shop charges no sales tax but charges $80 for shipping. I found my Volae's setup
> effortless.
> --
> Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL "Tom Blum" <teblum@gate.net> wrote in message
> newsTeIb.15248$IM3.11622@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > You DO realize that asking this question is like pouring gasoline on a fire???
> >
> > I haven't seen such rabid partisanship re. brands since my early days reading this news group,
> > when rans people were much more vehement about being "the one, true BENT".
> >
> > I , personally, ride a homebuilt high racer. As I ironed out the details
> of
> > the bike, I found myself favoring the details of the Volae. As to how
the
> > two designs compare; I'd be surprised if there was any major difference. IT'S THE MOTOR!!
> >
> > For the average rider, components are for bragging rights. They don't
have
> a
> > big effect on performance until you need to accellerate or climb a lot.
> Even
> > than, put a Lance Armstrong engine on the cheapest heaviest home built
and
> > yourself on an Aero and guess who wins??? That said, the Alex rims and Carbonfibre forks I have
> > added to my HRC (High Racer Clone) did change
the
> > ride favorable, I think. Of course, having spent the money to upgrade, what was I going to
think???
> > (It's called "cognitive disonance" in psych. circles. Your beliefs
change
> to
> > support your actions) "mjbass" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
> > news:nG%Hb.13$%z1.3@fe08.private.usenetserver.com...
> > > I am looking at both the Strada and the Team. I would appreciate any input. I know both are
> > > good bikes and have their plusses and minuses.
I
> > > would like to hear from Volae owners.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > MB
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> >
>

"Ben Fox" skrev...
> The Corsa has the FSA carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that to the Corsa.

Whats the advantage of FSA? Think I checked them out once and they were heavier than the Dura-ace.

Mikael

Ben, I respect your opinion. Perhaps we're both splitting hairs and
describing our personal choices on the components. For instance, I like the
VolaeTeam's riser and handlebars. Personal choice. What I said at the
beginning of my post sums up my view:

> > I own a Volae Team and twice test-rode a Corsa and Aero. I did not see much difference.
--
Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL

"Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message news:vv3s0nf7ckui94@corp.supernews.com...
> Robert, Normally I agree with most of what you say,but here goes; The difference between the Volae
> Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks,
The
> Volae has Dura-ace components, the Corsa has Ultegra, The Corsa has the Terracycle tilt ,the best
> made IMO,I would give the nod on wheels to the Team ,but not by much. The Corsa has the FSA carbon
> crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that to
the
> Corsa. The brakes would go to the team since the front brake on the Corsa is crap,which I've
> already changed to shimano. The handlebars on the Team are kind of strange looking IMO. Now since
> you were comparing buying from a dealer and paying sales tax or buying from mail order and paying
> shipping, ,I bought my corsa from a LBS and paid $2150. Rolf wanted $2995.for the Team. Is the
> Team worth almost $850. more than a Corsa? I say no. Ben Fox

Not sure what the triple dura-ace weight is but the double is about 600
grams and the FSA triple is 660 grams.
I guess it comes down to personal preference ,but the FSA definately costs
more than the Dura-ace so I would say it is a higher spec component .
Ben fox
"Mikael Seierup" <briangoebbels@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ben Fox" skrev...
> > The Corsa has the FSA carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that to
the
> > Corsa.
>
> Whats the advantage of FSA? Think I checked them out once and they were heavier than the Dura-ace.
>
> Mikael

I suspect Rolf Garthus does, also. He told me he is looking at FSA. Watch the evolution of Volae ...
it has the potential to be a major success, IMHO.

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Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL "Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message
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> Not sure what the triple dura-ace weight is but the double is about 600 grams and the FSA triple
> is 660 grams. I guess it comes down to personal preference ,but the FSA definately costs more than
> the Dura-ace so I would say it is a higher spec component . Ben fox "Mikael Seierup"
> <briangoebbels@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:bssrf0$11lho$1@ID-169681.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Ben Fox" skrev...
> > > The Corsa has the FSA carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that
to
> the
> > > Corsa.
> >
> > Whats the advantage of FSA? Think I checked them out once and they were heavier than the
> > Dura-ace.
> >
> > Mikael

Robert,
Since I own a Corsa and you a Team,I thought I would give my thoughts on the
two bikes. I agree they are very much alike ,after all Rolf came up with his
idea after he started selling the Bacchettas.
I would have bought a team or the next one down ,can't think of the name
right now,if he had them in stock and would have come down a little in
price.
I'll bet ,given two riders of equal ability,one on your bike and the other
on mine,there would be no difference in speed.the only difference would be
that my bike cost a lot less than yours and the yellow is awful" purty".
Ben fox
"Robert Siegel" <bobsiegel@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:eDmIb.565028$0v4.22833607@bgtns...rldnet.att.net...
> Ben, I respect your opinion. Perhaps we're both splitting hairs and describing our personal
> choices on the components. For instance, I like
the
> VolaeTeam's riser and handlebars. Personal choice. What I said at the beginning of my post sums up
> my view:
>
> > > I own a Volae Team and twice test-rode a Corsa and Aero. I did not
see
> > > much difference.
> --
> Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL
>
> "Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message news:vv3s0nf7ckui94@corp.supernews.com...
> > Robert, Normally I agree with most of what you say,but here goes; The difference between the
> > Volae Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks,
> The
> > Volae has Dura-ace components, the Corsa has Ultegra, The Corsa has the Terracycle tilt ,the
> > best made IMO,I would give the nod on wheels to the Team ,but not by much. The Corsa has the FSA
> > carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that to
> the
> > Corsa. The brakes would go to the team since the front brake on the Corsa is crap,which I've
> > already changed to shimano. The handlebars on the Team are kind of strange looking IMO. Now
> > since you were comparing buying from a dealer and paying sales tax
or
> > buying from mail order and paying shipping, ,I bought my corsa from a
LBS
> > and paid $2150. Rolf wanted $2995.for the Team. Is the Team worth almost $850. more than a
> > Corsa? I say no. Ben Fox

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Robert Siegel
[B]... For instance, I like the
VolaeTeam's riser and handlebars. Personal choice....

Bob,

I have not seen a Volae close up and wonder about the three piece handlebar. Not the riser, just the handlebar. What do you think the benefit of this type of design? Other than the Saber the Volae is the only other bike I have seen with this type of handlebar.

Thanks,

Mike

"Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message
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> The difference between the Volae Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks,

Corsa has M5 fiberglass seat, half pound heavier than the carbon seat. Team has a significantly
lighter all carbon Alpha Q fork

IMHO the way to go is buy a used Strada and then upgrade components.

The way to go may be to buy a bare Volae frameset (no fork) and build it up with last year's model
parts from PricePoint.com However, the quality of parts on a stock Team is very high.

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Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL "BarryG" <barrygross at access4less.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message news:vv3s0nf7ckui94@corp.supernews.com...
> > The difference between the Volae Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks,
>
> Corsa has M5 fiberglass seat, half pound heavier than the carbon seat.
Team
> has a significantly lighter all carbon Alpha Q fork
>
> IMHO the way to go is buy a used Strada and then upgrade components.

I always associated the Volae club to go head to head with the Corsa, and Team to go against the
Aero. I like the looks of the Club, especially that Brass color over them all.

Ben Fox wrote:
> Robert, Since I own a Corsa and you a Team,I thought I would give my thoughts on the two bikes. I
> agree they are very much alike ,after all Rolf came up with his idea after he started selling the
> Bacchettas. I would have bought a team or the next one down ,can't think of the name right now,if
> he had them in stock and would have come down a little in price. I'll bet ,given two riders of
> equal ability,one on your bike and the other on mine,there would be no difference in speed.the
> only difference would be that my bike cost a lot less than yours and the yellow is awful" purty".
> Ben fox "Robert Siegel" <bobsiegel@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:eDmIb.565028$0v4.22833607@bgtnsc04-
> news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>Ben, I respect your opinion. Perhaps we're both splitting hairs and describing our personal
>>choices on the components. For instance, I like
>
> the
>
>>VolaeTeam's riser and handlebars. Personal choice. What I said at the beginning of my post sums up
>>my view:
>>
>>
>>>>I own a Volae Team and twice test-rode a Corsa and Aero. I did not
>
> see
>
>>>>much difference.
>>
>>--
>> Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL
>>
>>"Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message news:vv3s0nf7ckui94@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>Robert, Normally I agree with most of what you say,but here goes; The difference between the
>>>Volae Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks,
>>
>>The
>>
>>>Volae has Dura-ace components, the Corsa has Ultegra, The Corsa has the Terracycle tilt ,the best
>>>made IMO,I would give the nod on wheels to the Team ,but not by much. The Corsa has the FSA
>>>carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that to
>>
>>the
>>
>>>Corsa. The brakes would go to the team since the front brake on the Corsa is crap,which I've
>>>already changed to shimano. The handlebars on the Team are kind of strange looking IMO. Now since
>>>you were comparing buying from a dealer and paying sales tax
>
> or
>
>>>buying from mail order and paying shipping, ,I bought my corsa from a
>
> LBS
>
>>>and paid $2150. Rolf wanted $2995.for the Team. Is the Team worth almost $850. more than a Corsa?
>>>I say no. Ben Fox
>>
>>

I think Hostel Shoppe will paint a Team any stock Volae color. I don't know if there's a charge.

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Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL "bentbiker" <bentbiker@REMOVEaccesstoledo.com> wrote in message
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> I always associated the Volae club to go head to head with the Corsa, and Team to go against the
> Aero. I like the looks of the Club, especially that Brass color over them all.
>
> Ben Fox wrote:
> > Robert, Since I own a Corsa and you a Team,I thought I would give my thoughts on
the
> > two bikes. I agree they are very much alike ,after all Rolf came up with
his
> > idea after he started selling the Bacchettas. I would have bought a team or the next one down
> > ,can't think of the name right now,if he had them in stock and would have come down a little in
> > price. I'll bet ,given two riders of equal ability,one on your bike and the
other
> > on mine,there would be no difference in speed.the only difference would
be
> > that my bike cost a lot less than yours and the yellow is awful" purty". Ben fox "Robert Siegel"
> > <bobsiegel@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:eDmIb.565028$0v4.22833607@bgtnsc04-
> > news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> >
> >>Ben, I respect your opinion. Perhaps we're both splitting hairs and describing our personal
> >>choices on the components. For instance, I like
> >
> > the
> >
> >>VolaeTeam's riser and handlebars. Personal choice. What I said at the beginning of my post sums
> >>up my view:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>I own a Volae Team and twice test-rode a Corsa and Aero. I did not
> >
> > see
> >
> >>>>much difference.
> >>
> >>--
> >> Bob Siegel in Gainesville FL
> >>
> >>"Ben Fox" <bfox@bullets.net> wrote in message news:vv3s0nf7ckui94@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>>Robert, Normally I agree with most of what you say,but here goes; The
difference
> >>>between the Volae Team and the Corsa, Both have carbon seats and forks,
> >>
> >>The
> >>
> >>>Volae has Dura-ace components, the Corsa has Ultegra, The Corsa has the Terracycle tilt ,the
> >>>best made IMO,I would give the nod on wheels to
the
> >>>Team ,but not by much. The Corsa has the FSA carbon crank ,the Team has Dura-ace,I give that
to
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>Corsa. The brakes would go to the team since the front brake on the Corsa is crap,which I've
> >>>already changed to shimano. The handlebars on the Team are kind of strange looking IMO. Now
> >>>since you were comparing buying from a dealer and paying sales tax
> >
> > or
> >
> >>>buying from mail order and paying shipping, ,I bought my corsa from a
> >
> > LBS
> >
> >>>and paid $2150. Rolf wanted $2995.for the Team. Is the Team worth
almost
> >>>$850. more than a Corsa? I say no. Ben Fox
> >>
> >>
> >