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Sometimes I go out in the real world and when I see someone wearing that bracelet I know that I am dealing with a total simpleton. A typical pop-culture moron that cannot think for themselves.

Sorry if that sounds like someone whose teeth you brush.
Yes I am such a Moron. How much money do you make in a year? I the Simpleton will not tell you exactly but I am so stupid that I live very comfortable,own two homes ans will retire at 55. My wife the other Simpleton hold two degrees and is VP at a bank. Amazing what complete naive idiots can do. What a country. You are about to catch a lot of crap from alot of people would be my guess. I don't know you but you should not make broad generalization about people you don't know.
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My best friend died in his teens of cancer. My wife's best friend died in her late twenties. Two grandparents as well. Cancer is very very close to me and my family, and I hate it. No, I am not wearing one of those stupid wristbands.

Although I'm happy to see the cause getting this attention, I hope it's really the cause that's getting attention, vs. people just making a fashion statement, or a statement around some kind of political correctness.

If you want to further cancer research, please please do donate. I think LA is doing some great things to help fund research, and the LAF is NOT a money-making ploy, but respeced non-profit. That said, my $$$ are going to organizations such as the American Cancer Society (www.cancer.org).

You can learn more about cancer research and these kinds of foundations at the National Cancer Institute website, http://cis.nci.nih.gov.
I never meant to imply that the LAF is a money-making ploy. I believe in the sincerity of their mission. I just don't believe in the sincerity of the "livestrong" campaign. Nike is set to make mountains of money off of what they said was a donation to help fight cancer. I don't know if LA himself is getting a piece of that mountain, but I think it is safe to assume he is. Personally, I find that insulting.

Is 'livestrong" a cancer research money raising vehicle or a Nike clothing line?
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Yes I am such a Moron. How much money do you make in a year? I the Simpleton will not tell you exactly but I am so stupid that I live very comfortable,own two homes ans will retire at 55. My wife the other Simpleton hold two degrees and is VP at a bank. Amazing what complete naive idiots can do. What a country. You are about to catch a lot of crap from alot of people would be my guess. I don't know you but you should not make broad generalization about people you don't know.
I don't base people's intellect on how much money they have. I am happy that you have all that though. Whatever makes you feel better. I prefer to live a simple life that is harmonious with the land.

I wonder if all that extra electricity that has to be generated to your "2" homes could have anything to do with Cancer. Keep wearing that yellow bracelet and ignoring the fact that conspicous consumption like yours is part of the problem and the reason our environment is going down and cancer rates are going up.

Most people can be happy with one home.
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I never meant to imply that the LAF is a money-making ploy. I believe in the sincerity of their mission. I just don't believe in the sincerity of the "livestrong" campaign. Nike is set to make mountains of money off of what they said was a donation to help fight cancer. I don't know if LA himself is getting a piece of that mountain, but I think it is safe to assume he is. Personally, I find that insulting.

Is 'livestrong" a cancer research money raising vehicle or a Nike clothing line?
Ok I read once that Nike is a for profit organization and I am sure that Armstrong doesn't ride entirely for his health but if the effort saves one life its ok by me. If they help find a cure they may insult the hell out of me.
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What conspiracy? I never said there was a conspiracy. Just clever marketing. Nike and LA get essentially free advertising by saying they are doing all this for cancer. Sure, all the money from the bracelets go to the LAF. I have no problem with that. That was nice.

But they used the free publicity and the "livestrong" name to market a whole line of clothes with that name. As far as I can tell, none of that money goes to Cancer.

So, for a $1 million investment (not a donation), they get free publicity that generates hundreds of millions in revenue.

Seems rather shady to me, but buy it and wear that stuff all you want. You are helping a good cause. Nike and LA need more money. Just don't fool yourself into thinking it is some generous gift from Nike and LA. The majority of the money is coming from people like you.

BTW, I am having an okay day. Thanks.
Oh, I see. So you don't dispute the fact that the money for the wristbands goes toward cancer research but you're contending that the LAF and Nike have done this as a marketing ploy to sell merchandise? Well... the only merchandise being sold with the "LIVESTRONG" logo on it is through the LAF and part of the proceeds for each sale go toward cancer research. I doubt anyone is going to be making huge amounts of money off of this. So again where are your facts? Where'd you get your information? Specifically, where do you get the idea that Nike and LA are going to rake in hundreds of millions of dollars using these wristbands as their primary source of advertising? Did you just pull that out of the dark recesses of your bitter little head? The wristbands have no Nike or LAF logo on them. You should really have some facts to back-up what your saying before you just start spewing out ass juice.

Oh! And if you see me walking down the street with my yellow wristband on, please keep your promise and don't talk to me. I have no time for simpletons either.
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Ok I read once that Nike is a for profit organization and I am sure that Armstrong doesn't ride entirely for his health but if the effort saves one life its ok by me. If they help find a cure they may insult the hell out of me.
I have no problem with anyone making money. Even you. It just seems to me to be disingenous to turn all that free publicity from the "livestrong" campaign into a clothing line.

How many people will buy those clothes and think that some of the profits go to fight cancer? I think you know that is true and will happen.

All I ask is for some honesty in how Nike and LA make their money!
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Oh, I see. So you don't dispute the fact that the money for the wristbands goes toward cancer research but you're contending that the LAF and Nike have done this as a marketing ploy to sell merchandise? Well... the only merchandise being sold with the "LIVESTRONG" logo on it is through the LAF and part of the proceeds for each sale go toward cancer research. I doubt anyone is going to be making huge amounts of money off of this. So again where are your facts? Where'd you get your information? Specifically, where do you get the idea that Nike and LA are going to rake in hundreds of millions of dollars using these wristbands as their primary source of advertising? Did you just pull that out of the dark recesses of your bitter little head? The wristbands have no Nike or LAF logo on them. You should really have some facts to back-up what your saying before you just start spewing out ass juice.

Oh! And if you see me walking down the street with my yellow wristband on, please keep your promise and don't talk to me. I have no time for simpletons either.
Where do I get my information from? From the Nike Store in my town. They have livestrong T-shirts, shorts and shoes and I see people buying them en masse.

Where do you get your information that Nike is donating that money to the LAF? I could be wrong, but all I ever saw was that the bracelets were donated.

Surely, you don't think the bracelets need to have the Nike logo on them for people to associate the bracelets with the clothing line.

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Where do I get my information from? From the Nike Store in my town. They have livestrong T-shirts, shorts and shoes and I see people buying them en masse.

Where do you get your information that Nike is donating that money to the LAF? I could be wrong, but all I ever saw was that the bracelets were donated.

Surely, you don't think the bracelets need to have the Nike logo on them for people to associate the bracelets with the clothing line.

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Nike has no LIVESTRONG merchandise on their web site. I had no idea that Nike was involved with the wristbands until I read this thread. And I have one on my wrist.

I guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that you're that much smarter than the millions of people (you know? us lemmings) that have fallen for this ingenius worldwide marketing scam. I really admire you for being able to see through this terrible sham.
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I don't base people's intellect on how much money they have. I am happy that you have all that though. Whatever makes you feel better. I prefer to live a simple life that is harmonious with the land.

I wonder if all that extra electricity that has to be generated to your "2" homes could have anything to do with Cancer. Keep wearing that yellow bracelet and ignoring the fact that conspicous consumption like yours is part of the problem and the reason our environment is going down and cancer rates are going up.

Most people can be happy with one home.
You are the one that brought up money and appearances. I was only giving you an avenue to respond. There again for all you know my homes may be solar powered.You are again making generalizations without facts. I didn't say money made me happy but with it we are able to assist more people who need help and that is what the wristbands are all about. Why don't you attack the sorry SOB"s that are filfthy rich and never help anyone.They never make the news fo not donating.
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Nike has no LIVESTRONG merchandise on their web site. I had no idea that Nike was involved with the wristbands until I read this thread. And I have one on my wrist.

I guess I just have to come to terms with the fact that you're that much smarter than the millions of people (you know? us lemmings) that have fallen for this ingenius worldwide marketing scam. I really admire you for being able to see through this terrible sham.
I think you are being sarcastic. Do you have a Niketown store near you? Go and look at all the livestrong gear they have.

I cannot find one thing on the web about Nike donating the proceeds of anything but the bracelets.

Sorry if you didn't like the term "Lemmings". But anyone can donate $1 to cancer research anytime they want. It shouldn't take a fashion statement or people wanting to look "cool" to do it.

Maybe you should think about your own motivations before attacking mine.
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I don't base people's intellect on how much money they have.
No. Just on whether or not they have a small plastic band on their wrist.
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You are the one that brought up money and appearances. I was only giving you an avenue to respond. There again for all you know my homes may be solar powered.You are again making generalizations without facts. I didn't say money made me happy but with it we are able to assist more people who need help and that is what the wristbands are all about. Why don't you attack the sorry SOB"s that are filfthy rich and never help anyone.They never make the news fo not donating.
You were bragging about your money to show how smart you are. Less than .03% of homes are solar powered so it is a pretty safe assumption that yours are not.

Also, most people who have solar powered houses are environmentally aware and would see the gross excess of one family having two houses.

Enjoy them.

"They saves all the trees and put them in a tree museum. Then they charged the people a dollar and a half to see them"

Maybe if LA promoted the environment with a green bracelet you would get it. Sadly, you probably still wouldn't.
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No. Just on whether or not they have a small plastic band on their wrist.
Exactly. Putting a piece of cheap plastic or rubber on your wrist is a matter of intellect.

Money can be inherited.

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Sorry if you didn't like the term "Lemmings". But anyone can donate $1 to cancer research anytime they want. It shouldn't take a fashion statement or people wanting to look "cool" to do it.
So only people that donate LOTS AND LOTS OF money are the ones that matter? It all adds up. What is wrong with donating a dollar any time they want? If they look 'cool' so be it, they are helping raise awareness and maybe saving someone's life.

You should go to a hospital and go tell some child that people only donating a dollar to help save them is useless. I really hope that child is wearing a LA braclet cause then you will be an ass hole. For all you know that braclet could be what is keeping that kid going...

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I think you are being sarcastic. Do you have a Niketown store near you? Go and look at all the livestrong gear they have.

I cannot find one thing on the web about Nike donating the proceeds of anything but the bracelets.

Sorry if you didn't like the term "Lemmings". But anyone can donate $1 to cancer research anytime they want. It shouldn't take a fashion statement or people wanting to look "cool" to do it.

Maybe you should think about your own motivations before attacking mine.
Yes I was being sarcastic, and okay, maybe you're right that I should consider my motivations before attacking. But don't you think it might have been a little excessive to call everyone wearing a LIVESTRONG wristband a simpleton though? C'mon, give me a break!

I still contend that the motivation for the wristband campaign was to raise money for cancer research and not for Nike or the LAF to make more profits. Just my opinion.

If I have a Niketown store near me I don't know where it is and I've never been there. If you're telling me that the store in Duluth has LIVESTRONG stuff for sale, I have no reason not to beleive you. If Nike is profitting from the stuff, then yes I agree that that's pretty lame.
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