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I used the SPD Multi-Release cleats with my first set of clipless pedals. You can release them by rolling your foot to either side, which is a much more natural motion than twisting your heel out. They'll even release straight up if you pull hard enough.
Thanks man. I bought a set of SH-56 Multi-release cleats (the SH-55's looked way too different than her stock cleats). The problem is they won't seem to clip into her pedals.

I was wrong about the Wellgos. She has Performance Forte Team MTB pedals, and they don't seem to like the Shimano cleats, even though the guy at Performance (as well as the catalog) swore they were SPD compatible.

I'm considering picking up a set of actual Shimano pedals for her and seeing how they work.
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Thanks man. I bought a set of SH-56 Multi-release cleats (the SH-55's looked way too different than her stock cleats). The problem is they won't seem to clip into her pedals.

I was wrong about the Wellgos. She has Performance Forte Team MTB pedals, and they don't seem to like the Shimano cleats, even though the guy at Performance (as well as the catalog) swore they were SPD compatible.

I'm considering picking up a set of actual Shimano pedals for her and seeing how they work.
I'm not sure where the hangup is there. Even though the cleats and pedals look identical, I've found that Shimano cleats won't work with Performance/Nashbar pedals, but the Performance/Nashbar cleats work flawlesly with Shimano pedals.
Edit: I dragged myself off of the couch and grabbed some cleats out of my loose parts box. The part at the front of the cleat that slides under the pedal binding is thicker on the Shimano SH55 than on the Performance cleat

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you think thats bad i remember my first few days gettin used to my clipless. while attempting to dodge some sprinklers my tire sunk in the wet grass and who else but my boss happened to be coming by and seen the whole thing. that was two years ago and the shop wont let me forget
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Today was a gorgeous day....ideal for riding. I put on my very cute new riding outfit, loaded up with water, map, money, health card, phone, granola, sunglasses, gloves and was off.

I'll start by mentioning that this is only my 2nd year riding, but my abilities and confidence have made great strides. Today however, the cycling gods had it in for me.

I rode down the nature path for about 10 minutes until I got to the first intersection I had to cross. I started to roll slowly toward it and planned on riding across but then I heard a car and though I'd stop. But I had forgotten I was wearing those )(*&*&^%$$# clipless pedals! I have been riding my mountain bike lately and it has ordinary pedals so I guess I forgot. Then I got the sickening feeling as I began to topple over that I wouldn't get unhooked in time. It is the most helpless feeling in the world, isn't it?

CRASH

I crashed onto my side, with my knee hitting both the bike and grinding into the gravel/pavement. Lots of expletives rang through the air. A garbage truck rolled by and the guy asked me if I needed any help. I smiled and said noooooooooo.

It's not the knee, or the pain or the ugly way it will look for weeks to come, but the total loss of dignity that I hate. And to have to cut the ride off that soon and go home!!! After all the time it takes to get ready!! There was a huge flap of skin hanging down, all white and rubbery and I knew I'd have to turn back. So my bike and I limped home. The breaks must now be mis-alligned because it went "tsh tsh tsh" all the way home. I was too pissed off even to check which wheel it was, will deal with that later.

What a waste of a good riding day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think this is my fifth crash and considering how often I just fall down on the pavement walking, it's a miracle I have any knees left!

Some pictures for your interest....sorry about the long post, I just thought I'd vent to some people who might have gone through this humiliation too!
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I'm not sure where the hangup is there. Even though the cleats and pedals look identical, I've found that Shimano cleats won't work with Performance/Nashbar pedals, but the Performance/Nashbar cleats work flawlesly with Shimano pedals.
Edit: I dragged myself off of the couch and grabbed some cleats out of my loose parts box. The part at the front of the cleat that slides under the pedal binding is thicker on the Shimano SH55 than on the Performance cleat
Seems you're correct. After putting the SH-56 Shimano cleats on her shoes, she wasn't able to clip in at all. So for now I've put her on my old M737 pedals with the multi-release cleats and the release tension turned down. It seems MUCH easier to release using this setup.

Unfortunately, my 737's axle bearings are shot, so it looks like I'll be picking up some new pedals for her. I wish I could return the Forte's to Performance, but my local Perf location sucks about returns. I guess I'll just keep them as spares.
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Crank Brothers -- Egg Beaters! 4 sided entry, roll forward, back, step down, toe in, whatever works for you. Really worth trying and worth the money.

Especially, the original MTB version -- in and out when you want.

I'm excited to get a new road bike simply so I can but the new Quattros.



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Seems you're correct. After putting the SH-56 Shimano cleats on her shoes, she wasn't able to clip in at all. So for now I've put her on my old M737 pedals with the multi-release cleats and the release tension turned down. It seems MUCH easier to release using this setup.

Unfortunately, my 737's axle bearings are shot, so it looks like I'll be picking up some new pedals for her. I wish I could return the Forte's to Performance, but my local Perf location sucks about returns. I guess I'll just keep them as spares.
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Crank Brothers -- Egg Beaters! 4 sided entry, roll forward, back, step down, toe in, whatever works for you. Really worth trying and worth the money.

Especially, the original MTB version -- in and out when you want.

I'm excited to get a new road bike simply so I can but the new Quattros.
Wish there was a way I could test a pair of those out. I've heard good things about them, and not much bad. I guess I could buy a pair, and if she hates them, I could just use them and give her my M540's.

How are the cleats on the egg beaters? Passable for walking?
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The basic cleats look alot like the standard SPD cleat (in size and shape). I guess it depends on what kind of shoes you are wearing.

The new road specific has more of a platform I think, but I haven't tried them so I'll not comment.

Maybe get a used pair to shave off the cost?

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Wish there was a way I could test a pair of those out. I've heard good things about them, and not much bad. I guess I could buy a pair, and if she hates them, I could just use them and give her my M540's.

How are the cleats on the egg beaters? Passable for walking?
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The basic cleats look alot like the standard SPD cleat (in size and shape). I guess it depends on what kind of shoes you are wearing.

The new road specific has more of a platform I think, but I haven't tried them so I'll not comment.

Maybe get a used pair to shave off the cost?
Not really worried about the cost. I just loathe the idea of buying something I won't use.
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we all do this every once in a while so we won't have to crash while in motion.



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Today was a gorgeous day....ideal for riding. I put on my very cute new riding outfit, loaded up with water, map, money, health card, phone, granola, sunglasses, gloves and was off.

I'll start by mentioning that this is only my 2nd year riding, but my abilities and confidence have made great strides. Today however, the cycling gods had it in for me.

I rode down the nature path for about 10 minutes until I got to the first intersection I had to cross. I started to roll slowly toward it and planned on riding across but then I heard a car and though I'd stop. But I had forgotten I was wearing those )(*&*&^%$$# clipless pedals! I have been riding my mountain bike lately and it has ordinary pedals so I guess I forgot. Then I got the sickening feeling as I began to topple over that I wouldn't get unhooked in time. It is the most helpless feeling in the world, isn't it?

CRASH

I crashed onto my side, with my knee hitting both the bike and grinding into the gravel/pavement. Lots of expletives rang through the air. A garbage truck rolled by and the guy asked me if I needed any help. I smiled and said noooooooooo.

It's not the knee, or the pain or the ugly way it will look for weeks to come, but the total loss of dignity that I hate. And to have to cut the ride off that soon and go home!!! After all the time it takes to get ready!! There was a huge flap of skin hanging down, all white and rubbery and I knew I'd have to turn back. So my bike and I limped home. The breaks must now be mis-alligned because it went "tsh tsh tsh" all the way home. I was too pissed off even to check which wheel it was, will deal with that later.

What a waste of a good riding day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think this is my fifth crash and considering how often I just fall down on the pavement walking, it's a miracle I have any knees left!

Some pictures for your interest....sorry about the long post, I just thought I'd vent to some people who might have gone through this humiliation too!
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we all do this every once in a while so we won't have to crash while in motion.
Last time I did something similar was while trying to track stand the tandem at some light for a wee bit to long. I always put my left foot down so when we started to lean to far the wrong way I heaved on the handlebars to get us upright again so that I could put my left foot down. I was OK but due to the effort that I used, I flicked my wife of the back.
This was a bad thing to do.
She only received a few minor scrapes, but it was a hell-u-va long time before I was allowed to do a trackstand again.
I have been using clipless pedals since Looks first appeared on the market as I have found them the safest thing to use whe riding in traffic.
My sympathy for the injury but its a poor tradesman that blames his tools.
Don't feel humiliated, accept what happened with good grace, have a laugh and practice so that it doesn't happen again.
Skin heals and the truck driver doesn't have a clue or care who you are, he just offered help which is a good thing to do.

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We met a woman a couple of months ago who's wheel kept falling off her two wheeled trailer. As my brother-in-law lived only a few houses away and has a well equiped garage, I said follow us and we will fix it for her.
Marian asked her where she was going as she was very well equiped for touring and she said "Around Australia". Wow. We were impressed! Then she was asked "And how long have you been travelling for?"
She laughed and said "20 mins".
We fixed the problem and she was on her way.
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My sympathy for the injury but its a poor tradesman that blames his tools.
Don't feel humiliated, accept what happened with good grace, have a laugh and practice so that it doesn't happen again.
Skin heals and the truck driver doesn't have a clue or care who you are, he just offered help which is a good thing to do.

Cheers

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Oh don't get me wrong, I am so glad the driver offered to help, it was very kind of him. But I can only imagine how stupid I looked toppling over that way.

As for blaming my tools, I know what you are saying (my parents use that expression all the time!) but I really don't like the restriction of not having access to my own feet in time. I am not yet a fan of these things, I have had nothing but bashed up knees with them. Also, these particular cleats and pedals are very tricky both to clip in and out of. It takes a lot of stamping and grinding to get them in, and a lot of force and twisting to get them out.

They are probably good for someone experienced, but for me I really have to plan ahead if I want to unclip, and it feels unsafe. What if I need my feet immediately? I'm sure I'd feel a lot better about them if I could clip in and out spontaneously. That's just my humble and inexperienced opinion. Anyway, cydewaze is in the process of finding me more suitable ones.

That's a cute story about the woman with the wheel!

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Hi juf2m.

I started riding a number of years ago after some time off the bike. As a child, flat pedals were the only option. Now as a rider who races every weekend in Masters events, clipless pedals have become the norm. Even have them for my track bike.
I have "Look" pedals on all my bikes. The trick with these, is when new or inexperienced with them, have the adjustment to the extreme limit so that disconnection is easiest. As you gain experience, you can then readjust as necessary.
When riding in clipless pedals, one has to plan your stops. One has to be aware and ready well prior to stopping. To release quickly from these type of pedals your heel must move outwards from the bike, with the foot relatively level. Does that make sense? Kick your heel out sideways.
Falls will still continue though, and the embarrasment level never seems to diminish. The cuts and abrasions do though.
Continue with using your clipless pedals, as the efficiency gained is worth the effort.
Hope that this helps. Keep riding whatever you decide. Remember, a bad day on the bike is better than a good day at work.

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Oh don't get me wrong, I am so glad the driver offered to help, it was very kind of him. But I can only imagine how stupid I looked toppling over that way.

As for blaming my tools, I know what you are saying (my parents use that expression all the time!) but I really don't like the restriction of not having access to my own feet in time. I am not yet a fan of these things, I have had nothing but bashed up knees with them. Also, these particular cleats and pedals are very tricky both to clip in and out of. It takes a lot of stamping and grinding to get them in, and a lot of force and twisting to get them out.

They are probably good for someone experienced, but for me I really have to plan ahead if I want to unclip, and it feels unsafe. What if I need my feet immediately? I'm sure I'd feel a lot better about them if I could clip in and out spontaneously. That's just my humble and inexperienced opinion. Anyway, cydewaze is in the process of finding me more suitable ones.

That's a cute story about the woman with the wheel!
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Yikes!!!! looks nasty....I dont seem to have a problem getting out of them Just in!!. Normally as the traffic lights turn green and a mountain of cars behind you. ANY TIPS?
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Today was a gorgeous day....ideal for riding. I put on my very cute new riding outfit, loaded up with water, map, money, health card, phone, granola, sunglasses, gloves and was off.

I'll start by mentioning that this is only my 2nd year riding, but my abilities and confidence have made great strides. Today however, the cycling gods had it in for me.

I rode down the nature path for about 10 minutes until I got to the first intersection I had to cross. I started to roll slowly toward it and planned on riding across but then I heard a car and though I'd stop. But I had forgotten I was wearing those )(*&*&^%$$# clipless pedals! I have been riding my mountain bike lately and it has ordinary pedals so I guess I forgot. Then I got the sickening feeling as I began to topple over that I wouldn't get unhooked in time. It is the most helpless feeling in the world, isn't it?

CRASH

I crashed onto my side, with my knee hitting both the bike and grinding into the gravel/pavement. Lots of expletives rang through the air. A garbage truck rolled by and the guy asked me if I needed any help. I smiled and said noooooooooo.

It's not the knee, or the pain or the ugly way it will look for weeks to come, but the total loss of dignity that I hate. And to have to cut the ride off that soon and go home!!! After all the time it takes to get ready!! There was a huge flap of skin hanging down, all white and rubbery and I knew I'd have to turn back. So my bike and I limped home. The breaks must now be mis-alligned because it went "tsh tsh tsh" all the way home. I was too pissed off even to check which wheel it was, will deal with that later.

What a waste of a good riding day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think this is my fifth crash and considering how often I just fall down on the pavement walking, it's a miracle I have any knees left!

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My sympathy for the injury but its a poor tradesman that blames his tools.
Thanks for that extremely useful bit of insight.

After some experimenting, I've in fact decided that these Forte's weren't the best pedals for a beginner. I tried my hand at them, and even with the tension screw so loose it's about to unthread, they do take a significant effort to disengage, and they don't work with the Shimano cleats at all.

Incidentally, Jess doesn't seem to have any problems at all disengaging from my old Shimano 737's, even with a the tension screw set midway. Even though the axle bearings are pretty well shot in them, they should be ok for her to ride until I can get her a decent set of pedals.

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