Do we hate cars? - Page 7

I hear this all the time, the last time being at the local pub for lunch. I walked in with my bike and this woman (about 350lbs) says "Oh look....another one." It took all I could not to start an argument on the spot. She immmediately started to spout off about how I don't belong on the roads, getting in her way and such. The show ended when one of the other patrons said.."well look at you....you take up so much space, someone is ALWAYS going to be in YOUR way." She turned beet red and left right then...her burger half eaten on the bar.

Cha-ching!!!

I wish I had said that.

Cheers,

Brian

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It is like a finger, pointing away
to the moon......
Don't concentrate on the finger,
or you'll miss all that Heavenly glory."

Bruce Lee
"Enter The Dragon"

ever driven a high performance sports car?

something that can go from 0 to over 100 km/h in less than 5 secs?

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My daily driver will do it in 5.8 seconds. I test drove one that will do 60mph in less than 5 seconds

I do not get the point the though We were talking metaphoricaly, I just reminded that the suiter has a chronic gas problem

Yeah, Awesome, She got OWNED.

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It was truly a sight to behold...her wobbling out all red faced. Everyone had a good laugh after she left.

Cheers,

Brian

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"Don't think, feeeeeeeeeeeeel....
It is like a finger, pointing away
to the moon......
Don't concentrate on the finger,
or you'll miss all that Heavenly glory."

Bruce Lee
"Enter The Dragon"

Alrighty, I love humiliating boors too. Very funny.


But to get back to the question... suppose you were a clever chemist, and came up with a wonder substance that wrecks a gasoline engine even in microscopically small amounts.

Would you apply it to the delivery nozzles at the gas station after you had filled your own jalopy?


This is hypothetical of course.

In answering the original question. I do not hate cars. What I hate is a lousy inattentive or aggressive driver. Hating cars is silly. For those of you that hate cars, and own one....you have issues.

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"Don't think, feeeeeeeeeeeeel....
It is like a finger, pointing away
to the moon......
Don't concentrate on the finger,
or you'll miss all that Heavenly glory."

Bruce Lee
"Enter The Dragon"

I couldn't do it. To me people that mess with others' property are lower on the totem pole than dumba#$'& in cars or on bikes. Deal with people and not their property.

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What will happen when the planet earth - and the human race - is totally wrecked by the effects from greenhouse gases? At that point whether people drive anything at all with a combustion engine will be moot.

Cars are useful.

I think the motor industry shouldn't sell cars on their performance. I think this is very irresponsible.

If you make the reason you should buy a car because it is fast then it says to the consumer (who we know has no brain of his/her own) that it is acceptable to drive it fast. I dislike motorists driving fast and I have increasingly felt this way since I started racing cars because I now know that they have little control when it all goes wrong and a lack of understanding of how a car handles.

I have come to the conclusion that blaming the motorist is unfair because their is an attitude that speeding is acceptable. There will always be this attitude whilst there are cars being sold with over 50hp and there are magazines both on the shelves and on the tele that show thrashing cars is fun.

You could say that I am two faced because my sport is dependent on motor manufacturers supporting it (i.e. Renault and BMW spend lots on Formula Renault/BMW marketting and producing engines for the teams). However if they left it alone then it would still exist.

The final thing I will say is that it is obvious that big and fast cars will appeal to the simple side of our behaviour. Unfortunately our society doesn't look at that aspect of our behaviour and think how unrefined and uncultired and generally stupid it is but rather looks upon it as something wholly more positive. How ironic.

I agree with some of what you say. I keep seeing people in brand new performance cars, SUVs driving like lunatics. From what I see on the roads I think you have a point. People buy fast cars and start driving fast, they have a point to make, 'the car is fast'. Some people drive fast even if they do not drive a fast car. I also see some people driving a very high performance cars very responsibly. I do not think car makers will stop marketing the performance side of their cars. What we need to do is educate the drivers. First of all, they need to discover the little lever on their steering column, when used it tells others what the driver's intentions are.

Doesn't sugar do this? The answer to your question is NO from me. Destruction of property is not going to solve the US affinity (addition) to cars. I firmly believe that drivers need to be challenged like they were in Portland. I heard about Critical Mass demonstrations there that bottlenecked traffic. Now, over 12% of Portland commutes are by bicycle.

I'm not saying that the Critical Mass demonstrations are the reason for this, or that it is the correct method.

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I think mythbusters did this one with an innocent looking V8, and it ran fine.


Interesting hypocrisy- driving a car yet hating them too. Yet in many ways an understandable position, for instance where public transport does not work.