Jerks and the cars they drive - Page 3

Now its the "Come on Bro...you BS too...just let me off..." argument. I think I'll move up to the knee now on my biting. I can taste blood...

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That doesn't prove the data is wrong. You even based your argument on "their data", which assumes that their cruiser data was correct.

Its just an example of political bias affecting a decision in a small, small segment of the market. Can't make big mistakes on the numbers with SUV's, Buicks, and sports cars though.

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OK, BMW'ers, please stop trying to confirm my observation:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/26/f...es-off-runway/

Through careful study and statistical research I can honestly state without reservation that bad people suck.
They are also irritating.

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Dope,when training and talent just aren't enough.

I have come to the same conclusion as the OP.

My opinion was formed when during a single 18 mile commute one rainy evening a couple of years ago (I was driving), I was cut off three times by three different vehicles, and all of them were BMW's. This was commuting to my job in San Mateo California overlooking a country club, so luxury cars were pretty common.

It would be interesting to see what the true statistics are...

I do think that because cars are marketed towards certain personality traits that it is reasonable that drivers of certain cars will have a propensity toward certain driving practices.

When considering European luxury cars at the time, my hypothesis was:

Mercedes attitude = I own the road, but I am civilized enough that I don't need to prove it.

BMW attitude = I own the road, so KMA!!!

In my mind this is a corollary to another hypothesis of old money versus new money. Many rich families will live a luxurious life, but respect those around them, since they are the laborers making their riches. They have no need to flaunt their wealth or superiority. Those who have come into money think they deserve what they have because it is the fruit of their labor, and they will continue to step on the people they stepped on during their ascent.

I have never tested either of these with a sample larger than situations I remember.

Generalizations are rarely true for everyone, but they are often true for some.

HAHA! true!

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“(Training) doesn't get easier; you just get faster”
-Greg Lemond

I'll have to agree with you in general. However, I have to say that out of about 10 serious encounters with hostile drivers, most of them were driving pickup trucks. Nothing wrong with pickups.......I just think that there are a lot of insecure ****heads out there who need to drive a big vehicle to make up for .......ah.......let's just say inadequacies in their nether regions. There has to be a common reason that these idiots always scream "F*%#ing Faggot!" as they veer onto the shoulder while passing.

Maybe they are shouting out what they do as their passtime and or hobby.

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Dope,when training and talent just aren't enough.

I've never thought about it that way. I'm sure you're absolutely right.

I'm going to continue to disagree with the "no correlation between driver behavior and type of car".

I don't have the data... but I have experienced more little old ladies driving Toyota Camry's as a percentage of total observed Camry drivers than I have seen little old ladies driving F150 pick ups with monster tires and raised suspensions as a percentage of total observed drivers of F150 pick ups with monster tires and raised suspensions.

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If you really have to convince alienator, I think you have to take this as a hypothesis, then do a Bayesian analysis and post the probability distributions along with contours of various confidence levels...

It's a regional thing!

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Dope,when training and talent just aren't enough.

It was just a few days ago that I posted this new thread, saying that in my experience BMW drivers seem to be the biggest jerks out on the highway. So last night I watched a movie entitled "Memory of a Killer" on my movie channel. It was filmed in Belgium and subtitled in English. And in the movie the two police detectives are driving along and a BMW darts in front of them. And they begin commenting about BMW drivers, "Of course, a BMW," etc. So, even in Europe!

(By the way, they see the BMW park and the driver walk away. One of the detectives goes over and pees into the lock, claiming that it sticks the mechanism up and causes the car to stink. Do not ask me how he gets his pecker into the lock. Maybe Alienator can help here?)

You may be right Pendejo about the average driver... but when you see a BMW... I hope you don't jump to any conclusions and prejudge the driver... or that would be bigotry...

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You own a BMW Cranky?

Seriously, yeah, it is one thing to talk of the probability that a person driving a BMW is an enemy of cyclists, and another to apply to a person individually.