What do the italians call a a dream machine, like a really nice bike? - Page 3

Yeah, ignoring your hypocritical ****, it is a nice bike. I thought you were getting the 585? Now it looks (pun unintended) like we have the same frame... but I'm waiting for a different groupset. If I have to wait much longer though it's going to be Campy.

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very nice bike dude.The positioning of the logos force anyone to pay attention to that bike! I was wondering what was attached to those zipp cages, that's if you recall a earlier post I made about the purchasing of mine. By the way what kind of wheels are you running?

LEW VT-1 tubulars.

Now I am really jealous.

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From colour scheme i understood that this is Ultra model? If so, does not an extra stiffnes sacricfice to ride comfort on bad, i mean, realy bad roads? I actualy was looking on 585, they come in origin/ ultra as wel. And would 585 be a lot worse than 595 (as it is a lot cheaper)- maybe someone have rode them both.

No, it's an '08 Origin. As for ride on rough roads, it's all in the tires: decreasing the pressure by 5-10 psi makes all the difference.

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So, all those conclusions in bikes tests like "light and stiff jet comfotable", "a little flexy for sprinters", "too stiff for centuries", those are pure tricks of marketing? I mean is there any sensible diference in performance of frames like LOOK 585-595, Cervelo rs-r3sl, Time vxr-edge, Trek madone black- red- white, Giant tcr advanced (t800)-tcr c(t700).

I know i can read the reviews on roadbikereview, but is anyone who just bought an 5000$ bike gona tell that he can't feel the diference from this to that of 3000$? Everyone is telling- that of 3000 was good, but this is so much better... Placebo? Besides how true the conclusions can be, if the components (wheels) on more expensive frames are often better (more expensive)?