How good are American Vehicles? - Page 3

alienator · #31 06-24.-2008

[QUOTE=stilesiii]At one time in this country unions were formed to protect the workers for corporate activity and alleged abuses. Now, thanks to government "fixes", the pendulum has swung in the opposite directions, the corporations are now subjects of the union activities and abuses.[/quote

Uh-huh. That must be it.

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I'm so tired of hearing "big oil", "big box mart", "big corporation", ect. ect. ect. get demonized by politicos for fleecing America. You want to know why there is no more manufacturing jobs in the U.S. The tax policies and regulatory policies of the U.S. government have made competition impossible and they have fled to overseas markets.

Awesome! You've memorized everything the politicians have told you! Of course, anyone using any semblance of critical thought would realize the your "explanation" is BS. Your "scapegoat" is only one part of the reason, but it's convenient for you to focus on.

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Foreign car makers are flourishing in the sunbelt of the U.S. because of low taxes and anti-union work environments. BMW, Toyota, Honda and Nissan all have very large plants operating in the southern U.S.

Sure. That must be it. It wouldn't be at all because their cars offer better value, better service histories, or any of that.

Let us know when your going to get off your little bandwagon.

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The union and tax policies of the northern states, federal union regulations and poor corporate management have created a situation where we have to buy foriegn to get america's best.

And now we have Hope and Change on the way, Great!!

Who gives a **** about buying "America's best" eh? I'd rather buy the best period. Don't forget the overpaid whiney American worker in your little smear fest.

stilesiii · #32 06-25.-2008

Let's see, I was in agreement with your prior post that the problems of the American auto industry are self inflicted wounds and was simply pointing out some of the other problems you had not addressed, particularly government taxes and regulations.

I was pointing out that there are places in America where these problems exist to a lesser extent, and in those places foreign automakers have factories which produce the vehicles you describe as having "better value" and "service history." They are produced by American workers. They have a better value because the people who work at these factories have pride in their work and have not been conditioned by years of Union bullcrap that tells them that their job is an entitlement.

I was making the point, that its not the "American worker" that has ruined things, but corporate, union and government policies.

But thanks for your usual angry psycho man rant.

alienator · #33 06-25.-2008

Wow, Slick, you've got the hyperbole and exaggeration bit down, don't ya? Psycho man? Really? Angry? Clearly you're reading what ain't there.

Exactly how is the cherished "American worker" exempt from any blame? Oh wait: they're not.

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Originally Posted by stilesiii

Let's see, I was in agreement with your prior post that the problems of the American auto industry are self inflicted wounds and was simply pointing out some of the other problems you had not addressed, particularly government taxes and regulations.

I was pointing out that there are places in America where these problems exist to a lesser extent, and in those places foreign automakers have factories which produce the vehicles you describe as having "better value" and "service history." They are produced by American workers. They have a better value because the people who work at these factories have pride in their work and have not been conditioned by years of Union bullcrap that tells them that their job is an entitlement.

I was making the point, that its not the "American worker" that has ruined things, but corporate, union and government policies.

But thanks for your usual angry psycho man rant.

ClemmonsHoo · #34 07-17.-2008

Ford Granada V8, '79-'87 - many e-ignitions,alternator,several solenoids,u-joints
Pontiac Grand Am, '87-'97 - transmission
Toyota 4WD Xtra-Cab Pickup, '88-'04 - muffler
Audi A4 Quattro, '98-present - computer module, door latch

I guess I have been pretty lucky (knock on wood).

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