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This story was posted a while ago, but seems to have disappeared. A doctor in LA is accused of cutting off two roadies and braking hard in front of them, causing one of them to crash face-first into his rear windshield. Story here
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I would have to agree. And if the facts as reported by the media about the trial are anywhere close to accurate, I don't see how a jury wouldn't find that doctor guilty. |
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It takes overwhelming evidence to get 12 motorists to convict 1 motorist of malicious intent with a vehicle as opposed to simply being involved in an accident. |
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True. The importance of the case with regards to cyclists rights is whether the legal system is equipped to handle even a very clear case of motorist assault on cyclists, or whether 12 sympathetic jurors will let a motorist walk under any and all circumstances. If the latter turns out to be the case, then cyclists officially have no rights on the roadways. |
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No, that's not the case at all. If the driver isn't convicted, it'll just be another in a long line of cases (cases in general, not just cycling) wherein the jury couldn't put the facts together. The general trend, in this country (excepting Texas where the governor just vetoed a bill that would have ticketed drivers who passed too close to cyclists) is toward increasing laws protecting cyclists. More and more states are adopting something akin to 3 foot rule. Colorado's laws protecting cyclists are some of the best going. This case does resonate with cyclists as most all cyclists have had an encounter or two with road rage but that's not the same as defining some state of cycling based on a jury outcome. I think the case does show that verbal or symbolic retaliation toward drivers gets us nowhere and can, in fact, put us in harm's way.
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The outcomes of cases like this also communicate to other motorists, and other future jurors, what is and is not acceptable behavior when it comes to motorist/cyclist interactions. So... yes, it not only reflects, but will also influence the status of cyclists on the roadways going forward. According to the article: Quote:
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The problem is that even if the driver is convicted it will not make the roads safer. I lobbied and got a 3 foot passing law in Tennessee knowing that by simply passing a law nothing would change. Education and understanding is the only way to make things better. Some of these "share the road" laws are being integrated into drivers training manuals now and we can only hope that the crop of new drivers may eventually evolve into better drivers. Old habits die hard, with no pun intended.
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I get sick of people blocking the aisles at the grocery store and there are times when I fantasize about running them over with my shopping cart, but if I did that it would be assault. I don't get to harm them just because they're getting in the way, when they could easily stay on one side of the aisle. Quote:
I'm sure getting that 3 foot law passed in your state didn't have any immediate effect, but it's a good step in the right direction. |
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Absolutely! At least now there's a boundary to begin to try to enforce which extends beyond the skin of the cyclist. "No contact - no foul" might be sufficient between steel vehicles, but it's taken a lot of effort to get laws which do a little more to protect cyclists. With some laws in place, it's now time for education and enforcement to begin in earnest. |
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![]() I figured assault with a deadly weapon would go a little steeper than that. He should have just accidentally shot at them as he drove by and not banged up his Infinity. |
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I agree that doesn't seem like much for what he did, does it? ![]() Wow, if you read this article the DA used a grocery store analogy, like I did above, in her closing argument. LA road-rage trial closing arguments wrap up - VeloNews I guess people blocking the aisles in grocery stores is a universal problem! |
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