| Commuting and Road Safety If you are thinking of leaving the car keys behind and try cycling to work. Or would you like to discuss the Road Safety issue, this is where you will find the answers. |
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Another tragedy is exactly right on this one. I suppose the driver will use the same old "I didn't see him" crap and get off with a slap on the wrist too. Of course, if he'd used a gun rather than a car... Perhaps that's something Martin Bryant should have thought about. > |
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A follow up that appeared in todays paper<br /><br /> Quote:
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G'day. Gosh it's been cold in Melbourne. I've been hoping for a two-week trip to Queensland, but no such luck! To me, this "accident'' just doesn't gel. Here's why: Police yesterday described the tragedy as a ''true accident'', saying there had been no way for the50-year-old driver of the Ford Falcon that hit Mr Cashin to avoid the safety-conscious cyclist. So who broke which law, if there was no mechanical failure of the car or bicycle? Isn't there a human error here? The police, are virtally saying that the driver is without fault. I wonder what the driver's occupation is? Would that have any bearing on his exemplary road conduct? Seems to me that when your'e out on the road on your bike.... how many of us have to be 'sacrificed' each year? It happens at random... could be me next week. Because we only go one at a time, we have no voice, no protest. |
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![]() Guess why it was a ''true accident'' ? It's because there was a car coming the other way, so the driver HAD NO CHOICE but to hit the cyclist! Pretty ****ed hey? The driver hit the cyclist from behind.....so IMO the driver can only be one of two things; 1) Culpable - He knew the car and cyclist were there, but didn't give a **** and drove into the cyclist anyway. This would make him a murderer.....he knows he's a murderer, he's going to have to live with being a murderer for the rest of his life.....hell when this prick walks down the street he knows alot of people look at him and see a murderer or 2) Negligent - His brain was ‘out to lunch’ and he was NOT watching what he was doing. Remember driving a car doesn’t require a high IQ but it does require your full attention. This would be manslaughter if he used a gun or a knife to get the same end result. You don't hit some one from behind and call it a ******* true accident, this bloke needs pulling out of his car a shooting in the ******* gutter. have a nice day |
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The age old I don't give a f*** feeling 90% of motorists have towards bicycles. A quick example: I "commuted" to work on Saturday down one of the less friendly roads in Johannesburg (for those of you who know it Main Reef Rd. in Industria). The cars (BMW's and Mercs) and 4x4 went from the 3rd lane to my side of the road to see how close they could get to my. That is what is causing the accidents!
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I'm sorry, but the statement that this person could not avoid the cyclist, is udder ****e! I mean, did he not have brakes on his vehicle? This was from BEHIND. It isn't like someone was turning or changing lanes or running a red light or anything. Straight up from behind! In a car accident in the US, if you hit someone from behind, you are automatically at fault, regardless. The idea being that you are obligated, since you can see that person because you are BEHIND them and they more than likely can't see you, that you are legally responsible for leaving the appropriate space to accomodate the braking distance of your vehicle. If you did not do that, then you were irresponsible and took away the personal road space from the person in front of you...and therefore, at fault. Had Mr. Cashin been in a car and this happened, the other person would be in jail right now being brought up on charges of vehicular manslaughter. |
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This was no accident. To be honest, I'm getting a little sick of reading about "I didn't see him" being used as an excuse for this sort of thing. Why does nobody ever ask "Why not?". It seems to me that the guy could have quite easily avoided hitting the cyclist if he had just slowed down for three seconds (God, what a terrible thought that is!). I wouldn't be surprised if that was all it was. A car coming the other direction didn't allow this guy enough room to pass safely, so rather than wait for three seconds, he decided to risk it. Hence the "accident". I'd say it was completely avoidable if the guy had just waited a few seconds. > |
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GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH! RANT RANT PUFF PUFF HISSY FIT AND ULTIMATE TANTRUM. What is the matter with these people - a guy was killed - not just a number on a book somewhere - this guy had a wife and child for fcuk sakes - what do you tell them? oops sorry.... This 'oh my I didn't see him oops' excuse is cr@p. How would they feel if it happened to their brother/daughter/father etc? The problem is not limited to cyclists though - here in the UK the motorbike riders have come up with an expression: SMIDSY (sorry mate I didn't see you) cos that's the standard excuse when a car mows them down. What a waste of a life and what a pathetic let off. I don't think the killer (that's right a filthy murderer) should be sent to prison - he should be given 3000 hours community service marshalling at races, organising events, running drinks tables etc. That'll help cycling in general and give the idiot an idea of what cycling is all about. |
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Re: Culpable Driving, Homicide & Murder - I vaguely recall reading an interview with a high-ranking Police Officer in a Melbourne newspaper some 10 or more years ago. The main topic of the article was his hope to change the law, or to introduce new classification of road murder. I do forget what actual name he gave it. Unfortunately, I don't think there's been any change. Except perhaps in attitudes, which seem to have worsened. What we need is a person, or group of persons with the skills of investigative jounalists and lawyers, to follow up these accidents and report in full, to make public the entire case. Regretably, I don't have the skills or the time. We don't need more statistics - just presentable case studies. |
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