Need Advice Re: Tri Bike...Brands, Dos, Donts, etc..

All advice appreciated.

I have been to all my local shops to get a pros advice....now I want advice from everyone here

I am a beginning biker (not a diehard anyway) and have been looking at the Motobecan Nemesis. Is this a good bike to start with? Only 1200 new, and thats a bit high for my budget.

I dont know enough about bike value to really get a deal on ebay.

I need a 58 cm frame....6-0, 185...so ive been told

thanks again

That's probably not the best bike to start with. Tri specific bikes tend to be pretty uncomfortable for regular road riding. Get up on one at a shop and ask yourself if that's the possition you want to be in every time you go out for a ride. At your level, a regular road bike with a good set of clip on aero bars is much more suitable.

What would you recommend? Brands...wt...etc...

What are "tri" bike more uncomfortable and what are the biggest differences (parameter/set-up wise) b/w a road and tri bike.

thanks again

I'm not gonna write the book,but suggest you do some research before laying out the bucks. Some LBS might be a place to start. Beyond me why a newbie would even be thinking a tri bike.

It's really hard to recomend a bike as there are so many to choose from. We are all different and what works for me, may not suit yourself. That said, I would look at the entry level and mid-level bikes from Specialized, Trek, Cannondale and Giant. These are all major bike companies that stand behind their product and they offer complete bikes with good components for fair price. You should be able to pick up a bike with Shimano 105 for less than a $1000. Right now is a good time to look for good deals on last years models. Go test ride the bikes that fit your budget and pick the one you like best. As far as Motobecane goes, they used to be a great manufacturer, I have a friend that recently bought one, and I don't think too highly of it.

In general, a tri bike has a steeper seat tube, longer top tube, and bigger drop from the seat to the bars than a regular road bike. The overall position is tipped forward and stretched out. This adds up to better power transfer and aerodynamics, but won't be a whole lot of fun for training or sightseeing rides. The bars on tri bikes are also banned from mass start road races, so if you're thinking of competing beyond triathlons, you would have to change the bars, brake levers, and shifters.

As far as road bikes in that price range, it mostly comes down to what your local shops carry. Look for a place that has a good service reputation. For $1000 to $1200 the big name brands (Cannondale, Trek, Giant, Specialized...) are going to perform about the same, so go with what fits best and you can get locally.

Thnks OC

I have been to numerous LBS and the one guy who I trust the most told me that most big brands all come from the same factory pretty much....a lot of the elite manuf have consolidated/been bought out and all (specialized, trek, CD, etc...) and are pretty much a Tiawian factory job at this point.

He told me to get a 58 (but that varies depending on the co.'s frame setup) and to bring it in for him to set me up....he has all the tools to get me pos.'d right.

i was told bikesdirect.com is a great place to start

It's true that a lot of bikes are manufactured at Giant's factory in Taiwan. I believe Cannondale still makes all of there frames in the USA. Some of the Specialized and Trek models are still made in the USA. Personally, I don't have a problem with my frame coming from Taiwan. If they've invested the most in the technology and equipment, they are probably doing the best job.

A 58cm frame is a good place for you to start, but it's all relative to the frame's geometry and the style of riding you intend to do. It sounds like you guy at the LBS is on the right track, a proper fit will ensure the most hapiness out of your new ride. Good Luck...

Yeah--my gut told me that this guy wasnt a run of the mill salesman and that he knew his stuff. Very nice guy, told me that each frame would vary (geometry-wise, like you stated) and that is why he wanted me to bring it in (or ship it to him) so he could set it up and configure it to my build.

I would like some more feedback on the road v. tri bike...

Differences, pros, cons, etc....

why go 'road' ?

why not tri?

i already have a trek MB....but i want something more suited for the streets

thanks

You might want to take a look at this:
http://www.wrenchscience.com/WS1/Sec...ing/Height.asp
It will give you a much more complete idea of where to start than just the nominal frame size.

One last bit, if you're going to purchase your frame or bike online, make sure you find a store that has the same bike and test ride it. You want to be sure of the sizing and feel before you ante up. Do not just figure that you need a 58 and buy it without a test ride.

Your question about tri bikes shouldn't be so difficult. If you're doing tris or time trialing, then look at tri specific bikes. If you want an all around road bike, then don't get a tri bike. The differences are in the geometry and components. A tri bike will generally have a more aggresive geometry that will put you in a more aerodynamic position (flat back). Tri bikes will probably come with aero bars with bar end shifters. There are other differences that also make it a poor decision unless you mainly intend on using for tris. The most sensible option as someone else already mentioned is to get road bike and add some clip-on aero bars if you want to ride in that position.

what a load from an obvious moron.

That nose picker is a moron.

Hey i have a motobecane nemesis and love it. Its listed at 1200 bucks but I got them down to 1000. For rear ultegra and front 105 you won't beat it. I however use it only for tri's. Like everyone else said, if you are not going to use it only for tri's and want to use it for road racing I wouldn't get a tri bike. Just get a nice road bike in that price range and you can always add a nice set of clip on aero-bars. Good luck

Why would you even consider a tri bike unless you race them .. and even in this case, I would really get a dedicated bike if you goal is to finish in the top half.

I race du's and got into dedicating a bike for my races. Now I am building another pure road bike bcs its so uncomfortable on long distances. Probably half of the elite guys (and I am not even close to them) run on regular road bikes with minor adjustements.. Don't waste your money, get a good road one and in two yrs if you still see the need get into serious set-up changes ..