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2. Hacksaw with a 32tpi blade. 3. Make sure you do not inhale any of the dust you create from the sawing. Get a ventilator mask and use it. Easton and Park both have nice articles on cutting fork tubes: http://www.eastonbike.com/downloadab...-05-Carbon.pdf http://www.parktool.com/repair/readhowto.asp?id=111 |
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If you are any good you can cut without the guide. If you can't borrow a guide, make one out of 3 3x1's joined to make a u shape and with a wide kerf saw cut throught the two uprights that you use as your hacksaw guide (holding the steerer tube firmly in one corner as you cut). If you are feeling a little timid (as I did before my first one) have a practice near the end of the steerer, well up from where you plan to make the real cut. Cut it a little long and use spacers above the stem. You can always cut more off if you want but you can't lengthen it if you cut it too short. Cut straight. Last edited by mitosis; 12-05.-2005 at 10:03 PM. |
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Also, a 24tpi blade would be a medium. 18tpi is coarse. With all due respect, your recommendations come off as only your opinion and it goes against documentation that the original manufacturer and tool makers' have provided. To suggest that "if you are any good you can cut without a guide" is just plain bad advice. For a headset to work properly you need to do everything you can to make sure the bearings get equal loading all the way around. This is why it's important to check head tube faces for parellelism and reface if necessary. Cutting a tube with no guide almost guarantees that you will not get good, even loading on your bearings. While your technique may work, it certainly is not a good way to do the job and it goes against all published methods. If you have some source of validation for what you say, please share it with us all. |
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I've only cut one C fibre steerer free hand when I couldn't borrow my mate's guide, but not before having several practices on an off-cut to make sure I was up to it. If you mark the tube properly and are experienced at cutting there should be no problem. If you can borrow a guide use it. If you don't believe any of this then I suggest you go down to your shed with hack saw blades and try for yourself on a C fibre off-cut. Its called learning from experience. If you are not confident get your lbs to do it. I've made dozens of cuts on both aluminium and carbon so I think I know what I am talking about. Yes, a coarse blade is 18 tpi. Maybe I should have used the word coarser when referring to 24. Serious error that. The reason Park Tool recommend a 32 tooth blade is that is is supposed to produce a neater cut. By the time you touch up the end of the steerer with some wet and dry you won't see a difference. I realise this is all opinion but it is one expressed as a result of experience. Unless I have some knowledge or experience that I think will help someone I don't bother posting (unless I can think of a smart arsed comment of course). You are free to take my suggestions or leave them. |
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It pays to know what you are talking about. Last edited by mitosis; 12-06.-2005 at 11:02 PM. Reason: less brutal |
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Seems to me that as long as you're not off by more than 2mm (and check to make sure you're not bumping into the top cap) you'll be fine. Still, if you have a miter box or a saw guide, I'd definitely use it! |
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I do all mine (carbon and aluminium) with a drop saw using a cut-off wheel. The saw has a built in clamp to ensure a cut at right angles to the walls of the steerer tube, just clamp and cut. If you are doing many of these, a drop saw at $100 isn't a bad investment. |
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I taped the steerer where the cut was going to be (masking tape), used an old stem as a guide and used a hacksaw with a tile cutting blade (it's really more like an abrasive narrow rod). Finished off the edges with very fine sandpaper. Almost like a factory edge! |
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Ask any manufacturer or composites expert, and they will tell you NOT to use a tubing cutter. They don't cut fiber cleanly. It's not what they're designed for. They crush and tear tubing and do nasty things to the resin. In short, they don't do kind things for the CF matrix. Such advise is uniform across manufacturers.
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Always nice to revive an almost 4yo thread...Nevertheless, the info should come in handy to someone out there... Tool of the trade - carpentry trade, that is - will do the job nicely. It's called a miter saw or chop saw - maybe the same as the "drop saw" that I saw referenced in a previous reply. Never heard it called that though - may be a regional term or something... Anyway, with the correct blade (the more teeth the better) a miter saw will make short and easy work of cutting the carbon steer tube on your fork. I've done several myself with excellent results. Speed kills...your hand sawing will never do the job as cleanly as the electric saw and its high speed will... Ask around...one of your buddies may just own one...if that fails, take it to your local hardware store or lumber yard as they may have one available and do the job pro bono... |
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