2007 Roi Monster Frameset Arrived - Page 10

This is an old thread when I was searching for info on ROI bikes. I read the whole worthless thing and couldn't care less about who is who. Bikes are bikes and who cares if some distributor is here to hawk his mdse.

However, the building bikes crappola is making me sick. If a pro mechanic spent 3-8 hours on every bike nobody would ever get to race and believe me you guys on here ain't pro mechanics. Rushed it takes about an hour for a strip down, replace parts, wash and rebuild.

Remember, we are talking about sealed bottom brackets, sealed headsets, sealed pre-built wheel sets, sealed pedals and mostly dual pivot brakesets easily adjustable. To try to say it takes hours to run some cables, put a seat on a post and stick it in a frame, clamp some bars and install some levers is ridiculous. Unless, your a snail or trying to learn OJT.

I guarantee you nobody does anymore than me in assembly with anti seize compound, teflon tape, greased bolts, scuffed carbon, protective mylar stickers and an occasional bling job on nuts/bolts in your favorite color. My bikes are gorgeous (no pics, sorry I only build them to sell them) and if I'm half asleep, need a Monster or coffee, I still can't see more than 2-3 hours work.

Fitting a bike to a rider .. whole nudder story. Test rides, loosen this, adjust that, that can take forever. But assembly, give me a break. The damn bike is half assembled for you. If it took you that long to assembly a bike in the 80's I'd have to fire you in my old shop, we'd never make any money.

Most of this thread is poppycock. ROI bikes...pretty cool but still not enough objective info on the net so fork over $$$$ for fancy stickers and paint. Compared to Cervelo and other brands, why bother? This looks like a unique frameset/bike...nice Italian flare but need to see more out there on it.

How about some real numbers on weights/stiffness numbers/etc.? Distributor if your listening...please get some info on your site to get some sales!

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I dunno about you but I enjoy taking my time fixing my bike. It ends up perfect, instead of rushed. Savour a build, don't rush. I enjoy my bike more if I take my time. We aren't pro mechanics, and that may be why we don't all rush a build as quickly as possible.

And coloured bolts look like crap on many bikes. Gaudy isn't gorgeous. Blacks and whites are clean and elegant. You don't judge if your bikes are gorgeous, others do, and without pics, they could be 12" girls bikes with fancy streamers and a colour-matched basket.

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thank you crank n' cycles...If you are ever in SW WA, take a trip to Crank N' Cycles.

+3. If a guy rushes through a bike build, then his beer is bound to get warm.

bobbyOCR..."You don't judge if your bikes are gorgeous, others do, and without pics, they could be 12" girls bikes with fancy streamers and a colour-matched basket."

Funny Bobby, I don't remember building a bike for you? How do you like your streamers?

Anyway, more on...or moron...not sure which. Who said I didn't paint some bolts black? That's a color, right? So is metallic silver which is what most are anyway...that's a color, right?

My reply to you is...uhhh, what?

I think Alienator is right. Your beer is warm, just make sure that warm, yellow liquid is beer your drinking.

The comment was made about the "necessity" to take hours on end to build a bike which is still...ridiculous. Again, I think the original poster was building bikes to ship to somewhere so the 'fitting' process is minimal since it had to be boxed or whatever. That takes time but just tightening some bolts and slapping in some wheels with "slow" releases seems to be what you are referring to.

Others deciding what's gorgeous? Look, I don't comment on other guy's wives and this is just the same. If "I" think my bikes (and who cares anyway) are great then it is, it is not up to YOU.

If you want to take all day, days, to build a bicycle that's practically built for you then fine. Do it, just dont' say it's necessary. It's not. A "perfect" build doesn't exist, even when you use extremely (especially when you use) expensive parts. They are delicate, just to save weight and look good and sometimes the nuts/bolts need to be replaced even before installing them, so they remain useable.

Some pics, huh. Let's see here's 4 bikes out of probably 50 over the years in my gallery.


Here's a link to where I worked. We only made just junk there and everything was gawdy. So you might not like the lame builds out of this shop. I mean if we could only take weeks to build every bike then we might still be...nope we'd have been out of business.

I don't take credit for the work shown in these links but this is who I learned from and to say I learned from the one of the best is an understatement.

Bike Gallery
Pro teams

So far I'm not a big fan of custom paint, even though I've built some up. New bikes, it will blow your warranty and most times you're afraid to ride it and get it scratched. My next build will be this:

Ebay Auction

It's an ebay ad that I'm sure will disappear eventually. Yes, I bartered for boobs and at that price who wouldn't. If the pics aren't there I'll put them in my gallery too.

There's some gallery pics of my 13 y.o.'s first bike. What a piece of crap that is, right? How gawdy matching shoes, stem, frame, tape, seat, helmet, tires, wheels, bolts, crank. Even machining & fabricating to get Campy Ergo levers to work flawlessly with Shimano Ultegra (cheaper and better shifting...levers are ehh, ugly) in a hidden J-tek adaptor. I think I need some streamers.

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BMC is gorgeous.

Airborne and Lightspeed, reasonable.

Your son's bike, I need to squint to avoid temporary blindness, but from what I can tell, that is now one of 4 gaudy bikes that look good. Well done.

Remember rule number one of internet agruing. If you get wound up you are losing. You can be winning 'the argument' but if you are getting hung up on it, its no fun.

Black, grey, white, chrome and anything that doesn't reflect a colour isn't a colour.

Taking your time can be good, but when it isn't a personal project, especially for business, time is money. Now, back to the slightly pointless bickering, more on.

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thank you crank n' cycles...If you are ever in SW WA, take a trip to Crank N' Cycles.

Time is relative, if one's relatives are extremely slow then yes, I agree. Why does it take someone 10 minutes to do the same thing it takes someone 2 hours? What is accomplished hasn't changed just the amount of time spent doing it. Take 2 of these and your build time will reduce by 99%.

The litespeed is not bad. The airborne's red highlights ruin it. Though I apreciate the black or white bartape (cept on one bike).

No pro teams use colour fade bartape.

keep it up.

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thank you crank n' cycles...If you are ever in SW WA, take a trip to Crank N' Cycles.