mavic vs campy vs rolf vs easton vs .... - Page 2

look for Bontrager Aero X-lite Carbon on e-bay. if you are lucky enough to find a new set, you will be very happy with them. they are light (1400grams), bullet proof and really nice looking too.

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2007 Cervelo Soloist Carbon SL
speedplay pedals CSC Edition
Campy record all around.
2008 Fulcrum RS compact cranks.
2008 Easton EC90 Carbon Tubular
Continental GP4000 tubular tires
Nokon Cables
Zero Gravity brakes

I rode a set of Rolf Vector Pro's for about a year, the predecessor to the Vigor and pretty much the same wheel. Very stiff, in fact brutally stiff.

I have rode the Rolf Vigor and their Elan and they are very stiff wheels, it was explained to me when I was researching them that they can actually put more tension in the wheel because of the pairing of spokes so the low spoke count shouldnt scare you. I thought they were awsome wheels and very fast. I just picked up a set of their Echelons for training - they have the 2007's on closeout directly on their website, I'm not sure if they are offering the Vigor too, but worth a check.

Cool marketing spiel!

So, anyone want to say why you need more tension than what is necessary to put the spoke(s) in the elastic portion of the stress/strain curve? Uh, it's not.

More tension is like stiffness, vertical compliance, and vibration damping: it's a tasty morsel for consumers to swallow.

i am between fulcrum racing 1 , mavic ksyrium es and easton tempest ii alu. Fulcrums are the best for sprints and weight the same as eastons . Eastons are the fastest and cheapest and mavics are the lightest . Which are the best ?

Sure, go/talk to somebody that can design a wheelset specifically for you and your needs and keep the overmarketed, poorly made wheelsouttaboxes in the box. DA or Record or DT hubs, rims and spoke counts depending on you and your needs. Less than the wheels(Mavic has a very poor rear hub), doesn't use unique to these wheels parts, will be lighter, more reliable and....cheaper.

can you tell me an online store where i can buy the rims and the hubs ?

From us at Vecchio's

We can build them as well. The 3 of us have over 12,000 wheels built and 20+ years of bike wrenching to our credit.

http://www.vecchios.com

the weight really is going to be around the same on these three wheels as Mavic is always off on their weights, actual to marketing weights and how fast a wheel is depends on how areo it is. The ES only has a 22mm rim depth making it more of a climbing wheel so I would say its down to the Fulcrum or Easton set and there is a price difference for sure.

What don't you like about it?

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I think handbuilt wheels aren't better if you want to give a small amount of money

Plastic bushing at the bottom of the freehub makes for a very draggy freehub, that needs a lot of cleaning, OILING. mavic said it was soft pawls(what a hoot) that was creating dust. It's really just a poor design.

Compare hubs to hubs on a set of handbuilts and wheelsouttaboxes'. The cheap wheels also have cheap hubs, poor builds..but it's your $.

The FTS-L freehub (I think that's what I have) needs 10min stripping down and 1c of baby oil every 6 months. Hardly a lot of cleaning. The freehub is definitely a little draggier than Shimano - I'd be interested in seeing wattage figures. Of course, it's only dragging when you're coasting - a lot of people criticise the plastic bush without noting that it is only spinning when unloaded. The bearing at the other end of the freehub, when spins when loaded or not, is a cartridge bearing like the main hub bearings.

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The decision between these is easy. Ksyrium ES, with fat alloy spokes and box rims, is high drag, so it gets thrown in the skip first. The next is the Racing 1, which, although it has better rims than the Mavic wheel, also has fat, high-drag alloy spokes so it hits the skip too. That leaves the Tempest II - bladed steel spokes, deepest rim of the three, nice and light - what's not to like?

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