Triple vs Double? - Page 3

I bet $100,000,000 USD. Please let me know when you have successfully fitted the Ferrari tranny to the Yugo engine and are ready for testing. The other thing you mention just sounds like you don't know how to drive a standard transmission vehicle. Also when I find myself "spun out" in any gear below 20th (or 30th on my triple), I will refuse to shift into a higher gear, because it will serve no useful purpose.

Hey - you're the one who wanted to bet so it should be you're responsibility to prove I'm wrong.

Never-the-less, if you deposit $100,000,000 USD into an escrow account that I can access after I win, I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to find backers to help me build the demonstration vehicle.

If you can't come up with the $100,000,000 USD, it proves that you're just blowing hot air about stuff that you don't understand as the rest of your post clearly shows.

Cool ! OK, The money is in an escro account. And I have as much proof of that as you do of this statement: "You can't make a Yugo go 150 MPH simply by installing a Ferrari transmission in it."

For your consideration, I provide some other examples of why I say: "I'll bet on a good downhill or a really flat road you can get awfully close". ie- meaning: "under the right conditions"..

So for your entertainment ! (and for those you are gathering to match my bet) --->

Example #1:
1/3 HP human being on a bike going 152.2 MPH
http://www.canosoarus.com/08LSRbicycle/LSR%20Bike01.htm

Example #2:
130mph Yugo http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z...O/default.aspx

Example #3:
A production Yugo going 111MPH
YouTube - Yugo top speed


Yugo going to 180 kmh xD for 100 euro yugo loool! ... Yugo ...var mb2=ManyBox.register('2',2,'VNY4l3r0-LsJ','','7e17',21,'Watch video','Hide video')
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=abk2i9mmrMI



And since you seem to be such an expert, and have such a keen understanding of engine/mechanical gearing systems, do me a favor will you ?

Will you do this academic excercise for your potential investors ?

Put our Yugo on a nice steep hill - maybe on the Austrian side of the Dolomites (Halltall rises to 1482m in 7km at an average of 14%, its steepest stretch being 32%). Or let's just say we found a 14% grade hill that is nice and straight for about 3 or 4 miles.

You do remember your high school physics right ? The incline plane ? And you remember this really sophisticated equation: F= MA ? You also remember the trigonometry you had to use to calculate the force vectors of an object on an inclined plane ?

So we know said production Yugo weighs about 1690 lbs. (don't forget to convert this weight to mass) Your incline is 14% (don't forget to translate to the angle). The acceleration of gravity is 32.2 ft/sec2 at sea level and can be corrected for, or even integrated over the course of elevation that our Yugo will take -Maybe use the 1480 m elevation in the Dolomite example to start.

So, please also factor in the 103 HP of extra force the Yugo will have from the engine (hmmm.. that is over 300 times that of the 152.2 MPH bike rider), and then subtract all the forces and known frictions of bearings, tires, road, wind resistance and things that will work against it. Will you also allow us to take the governor off the engine so that it can go beyond it's standard RPM protections right , if not we can just use that max value ? Please then use the maximun known RPMs of the engine crankshaft (sans component failure or at max allowed) to determine the RPM that will be translated to the imput spline of the Ferrari tranny and -- using your mechanical engineering wizardry and knowledge of the front wheel drive system of the Yugo, calculate the top potential speed of rotation that the driveshafts will receive from the Ferrari tranny at it's top gear (please be sure to use a tranny model that Ferrari makes that will obtain the desired speed of 150m at least - within "normal" automobile mechanical and dimensional parameters).
Knowing all the forces in action and the size of the tires we are using, and their maximum potential RPMs you should have potential top speed. It is a very simple "body in motion" system, I am sure you can whip this up like falling off a log right ? Because aside from your so very astute pick up truck example, you may need this information to convince your potential investors to join the bet with you , if it were me and I was investing $100,000,000 I'd want to see it.

Oh yeah, BTW and once again, I completely agree that in certain gears, the bike rider (or engine) does not have enough horsepower to keep up the RPMs to translate that gear into a faster speed (like when you shifted into 5th gear in yor truck at the worng RPM or during the wrong conditions) ... and again, my only point was that for a triple crank you don't loose the top end compared to a double if the large chain rings are the same and the riders are the same.

The rest of this is all just fun and games !




George

1. If you'll notice, John Howard is drafting a streamlined land speed record car to overcome the air resistance at 153 MPH. That looks to me like it has about the same frontal area as a Yugo but better aerodynamics and a lot more horsepower. Your own example proves my point. Gearing is irrelevant if you don't have the horsepower to overcome the air resistance. Otherwise John wouldn't have to have bothered drafting the car.

2. Unfortunately for me, I think you're lying about the $100,000,000.

The smart poseurs make that comment to me on the flats. The dumb ones make that comment on the climbs, but they don't finish before I accelerate away while they're plodding along at 60rpm.