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Like most people my first racing bike was shimano, low level 300ex it worked flawlessly because I kept it spotless. I had a friend with durace that was **** but it was covered in ****.
I am now a Campagnolo convert. I have a young family and the budget is tight.
I have built an awesome bike using second hand parts, the rebuild ability was the reason for my choice. I have ended up with an almost full 10 speed Record bike with levers that I rebuilt and it all works perfectly, besides cleaning there is little to no maintenance. Campag spare parts really aren't that expensive, shop around, the internet is a great tool, google is your friend and PBK is great. search google for Loosescrews, 247cycleshop and moruya bicycles.
I now prefer the positive click you get from campag shifting.
If you keep it clean even the low level stuff in any of the brands are good. A clean chain lasts and shifts cleanly.
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Like most people my first racing bike was shimano, low level 300ex it worked flawlessly because I kept it spotless. I had a friend with durace that was **** but it was covered in ****.
I am now a Campagnolo convert. I have a young family and the budget is tight.
I have built an awesome bike using second hand parts, the rebuild ability was the reason for my choice. I have ended up with an almost full 10 speed Record bike with levers that I rebuilt and it all works perfectly, besides cleaning there is little to no maintenance. Campag spare parts really aren't that expensive, shop around, the internet is a great tool, google is your friend and PBK is great. search google for Loosescrews, 247cycleshop and moruya bicycles.
I now prefer the positive click you get from campag shifting.
If you keep it clean even the low level stuff in any of the brands are good. A clean chain lasts and shifts cleanly.
just my 2c

Looked up Moruya...ahh New South Wales, Down Under..warm there now..how cold does it get(from 10 degrees F and snow right now in the 'Republic')?
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Looked up Moruya...ahh New South Wales, Down Under..warm there now..how cold does it get(from 10 degrees F and snow right now in the 'Republic')?
I'm going to hit the pool in about 5 hours.
Then I'll have a few cold beers. Then I'll snooze in the sun and get burnt!
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I'm going to hit the pool in about 5 hours.
Then I'll have a few cold beers. Then I'll snooze in the sun and get burnt!
I'm going to do the same thing! Except no pool...and no sun(cloudy)...and not get sun burnt...but I'm gonna have a few cold ones!!
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Yeah, Moruya NSW ......Gods Country. All you other bastards stay away
Nice and warm Sun most days average roads but quite roads. Im a warnin ya stay away.
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Yeah, Moruya NSW ......Gods Country. All you other bastards stay away
Nice and warm Sun most days average roads but quite roads. Im a warnin ya stay away.
Spent a couple of weeks over in Perth. Beautiful, peaceful, friendly.
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Spent a couple of weeks over in Perth. Beautiful, peaceful, friendly.
+1 on Perth. They are freindly, not like those mean nasty people in Moruya.
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Looked up Moruya...ahh New South Wales, Down Under..warm there now..how cold does it get(from 10 degrees F and snow right now in the 'Republic')?
I'm not sure about Moruya, but in Sydney it barely gets below 60F, even in the middle of July. If they get a 'cold snap' up there, with temps between about 55 and 60, they start crying

Average July max temp for Sydney is 17.1 (62.3F)!!!!!
That is balmy!
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I'm not sure about Moruya, but in Sydney it barely gets below 60F, even in the middle of July. If they get a 'cold snap' up there, with temps between about 55 and 60, they start crying

Average July max temp for Sydney is 17.1 (62.3F)!!!!!
That is balmy!
Hell yeah! Really good sailing weather too. (sacrilege, I know, I should be waxing lyrical about how good the cycling is )
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Can't really since almost all of the levers that come to us we didn't sell...
Without correlation of units returned for units sold, the number of returns could conceivably be more a factor of the number of bikes sold with Shimano componentry, rather than any particular tendency for Shimano to crater.
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Spent a couple of weeks over in Perth. Beautiful, peaceful, friendly.
Strange - I live in Perth and my kids don't describe me that way.
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Without correlation of units returned for units sold, the number of returns could conceivably be more a factor of the number of bikes sold with Shimano componentry, rather than any particular tendency for Shimano to crater.
Could be but considering an item that is SO expensive, I think any return rate is almost unacceptable. We have seen may warranties of 9s shimano 'stuff'. The other problem is the lack of enthusiasm the shop that SOLD the bike has to actually take care of the customer. If these BIG resellers of shimano had replacements on hand, because they see many of these levers fail also, they could keep their customers, rather than see them come to me. BUT in many trekspecializedgiantfeltcannondalekona dealers, service is an expense, a liability, not a benefit.
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Well, yesterday I finally decided on the Ultegra and 105 conbination. Since I was not able to find a frame that fitted my need$, all were or too expensive carbon frames (Cinelli, Orbea, etc) or too cheap ones I decided on only upgrading my old 8 spd 105 to 10spd almost all Ultegra. So I got Ultegra shifters, deraileurs, cassette, chain and a 105 crank. Since my frame is has italian bottom bracket I had to look for a italian bottom bracket and leave the one that came with the crankset for the future.
I got Ultegra 6600, I saw there is an Ultegra SL but beside color I don't know if there is any difference in performance or something else. I still would like a fancy frame but will wait until I find one that really fits my needs and that looks good. They are importing some Merida bikes in a Shop I visited and a Al bike with 10sp 105 105 is selling for around $1600, others I've seen with 105 are sold for more than 2000. The Merida I saw was great looking red/white and light, maybe around 19lbs or less. Let's wait and see if they bring some Merida frames.
Now let's see when will I have the time to actually install all those parts. I'm really lazy about the shifters, well not really the shifters but the bar tape. Any tips for this? Sometimes I ride with torn tape just because I'm lazy to replace it eventhough I already have a couple of spare rolls .
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My first bike ever was the Performance Focus, fully loaded with Shimano Ultegra 8sp STI. The STI lever broke, twice and finally when I called SHIMANO to find out about a replacement part? They told me it's no longe made.......

Rep told me to head to eBay to get a replacement one but.....I said: The heck with this I'm getting all Dura Ace and a new bike, the rest is history.

Anyhow, I bout a 2004 bike in 2007, all with DA 9sp and now the (left) STI shifter has a piece that's broken but nonetheless, the shifter works fine, I just don't like that little (looks like a washer on the outside of the mechanism) piece moving around everything I shift (using the entire lever to go up).

I've only had Shimano drive train and all I can say is that the rest of the parts have worked and last for a long time, except the STI lever, which I'm not to happy with 'em. But I'll upgrade to DA 10sp soon.
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