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Hi Peter. Could you explain why the CXP-33 is a better rim than the OpenPro? Isn't the CXP-33 single eyelet versus double for the OpenPro?

Eyelets aren't necessarily a sign of quality. There a tons of rims that don't use eyelets. Velocity makes damned fine rims, and they've got no eyelets. Kinlin doesn't. Some designs don't allow the option of eyelets.

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Thanks but I'd still like to know why Peter prefers the CXP-33 to the OpenPro.

anecdote: of the 30 to 35 rims I've owned over the last 20+ years, a CXP33 is the only one I've cracked through normal use.

Cracking/pulling out eyelets on OpenPro plus the seemingly impossible task for mavic to fix the noisy wedge issue. CXP-33 weigh the same as OpenPro, have a really nice design of the 'eyelets'(essentially inserts for the 'aero' shape rim). Have none of the problems of OpenPros, are stronger by the triangular shaped design, cost about the same...what's not to like?

I have to check latest offerings, but a year ago i had an impresion that for some reason German sellers do afraid Paypal more than Soviet Army. And shipping costs were weired. Maybe (hope) the things has changed.

Hi,
I've been procrastinating for some time about a new set of handbuilts. Originally I had decided on a set of DT Swiss R1.1's with Record hubs, but a growing sense of unease about my job security forced a rethink in the name of financial expediency.
So, I've ordered a pair of Ambrosio Excellight rims with Ambrosio hubs, 32H, ACI spokes, 2x on the front, 3x on the rear.
I'd have preferred the Record hubs but couldn't justify the extra 130euro when the Ambrosio hubs have an excellent reputation and were strongly recommended by the wheelbuilder.
Anyway, I just thought I'd share that while I wait impatiently for the wheelbuilder to work his magic.

All the best
Tonto

I was originally going for some DT 1.1's 28h rims with 240 hubs.

As Peter has advised they only make single eyelet versions in 28h. Could have got some white 28h 1.1's in double eyelet but wanted the black wheels.

Now doing a total about face and getting some Kinlin XR-300's laced to 240's 20F/24R radial front.

The Kinlins seem to be a popular build and as am only 135-140lbs low spoke count won't be an issue.

Would like to hear Peter's experience and opinion of these rims.

Also any opinions on the Edge 46mm clincher rims?

Another...of the perhaps 700-800 OpenPros and CXP-33s I have built(along with lots of Velocity, DT, some Sun a few Alex) in the last few years, the only rim that consistently pulls eyelets out is the OpenPro...not trying to argue with the OP or anything like that but I think mavic has a production 'issue'...along with their annoying click at the seam.

Kinlin are not available thru any distributor so I have never built with them.

Good hubs and hopefully the build is a good one. For you at 140 pounds, they should be a nice set of wheels.

Hotness in black. I want to build a set to some black Tune Hubs with black CX-Rays. 24 radial front, 28 rear (3x both sides). Hot hot hot.

Big money also...but whatever blow's yer skirt up.....

What are your thoughts on Ambrosio's?

Ambrosio may be the most used brand at any of the Spring Classics, Flanders, Paris-Roubais.......

Excellence and Excelight SSC are stellar clinchers. Stellar. Did I mention that they're stellar? They cost a bit more, but they are......wait........here it comes........stellar.

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Hmmm, good comeback ......although, I don't know a heap about Open Pros, coz I've only had a couple, but I've had a few Open 4Cds -- were they any better?