Steel frame - carbon vs steel fork? - Page 2

Is that for frames or for complete bikes? If that's just for frames, you guys need to find a different proctologist.

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Yep, frame-sets only, although, I was wrong: the top Time frame is $11,000, and the Ceverlo S3 frameset is only $8,350.

The Time TT frameset is $12,495.

To be fair, though, the Times are an acception, and the top models from other brands are around $6,000 to $8,000.

http://www.komcyclery.com.au/catalog...968192b93ffd1f

http://www.komcyclery.com.au/catalog...968192b93ffd1f

http://www.komcyclery.com.au/catalog...968192b93ffd1f

I assumed that these are just crazy rec retail prices that no one actually pays, but a local Time dealer convinced me last year that plenty of people were paying over $10,000 for the frame-sets!! I did some races last year on my wet day bike, which is a $200 Asian-made aluminium thing!!

Jeez. Do they at least kiss you after they're done raping you? I dunno about the TT frame, your price on the other two is over twice what it is here. How is the Aussie Dollar doing compared to US dollars?

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I know! It's farked! It's probably the main reason I'm a bit anti-carbon. And some shops wonder why we buy stuff on the net.

The current exchange is about $1 = 80c US

edit: oops, I had the exchange backwards.

In terms of buying bike kit, it sucks living in the Antipodes. I gots a good friend just outside of Auckland, NZed, and he says that buying bike stuff is really hard on his hemorrhoids.

As it happens, I was thinking about the exchange rate backwards when you first reported it, so it all worked out logically anyway.

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I also don't understand what I call the "carbon changeover attitude" I've noticed on forums. I don't wanna generalize, and say that lots of carbon frames crack and are easily damaged, but.....

I've seen plenty of threads on forums about busted carbon frames, and the responses are often something like: "no worries, it's under warranty. That company is good for claims, so just exchange it." It's all over the forums. How many times would ya do this with a very expensive frame before you got a bit pissed off, and thought: "Hang on. If I pay $4000+ for a frame, I'd like it to last more than a couple of years. I might check out something more reliable." But I suppose a lot of guys are happy to get a new frame every 12 months

I think they get it even worse than us, coz most stuff comes here first, so they've gotta cop the (little) extra shipping