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Now that SRAM has a 10 speed 11/34 cassette (VERY expensive) has anybody tried modifying a 9 speed cassette to convert to 10 speed? i read somewhere you can take a SRAM 9 speed 11/34, add a 30 tooth cog, customize the spacer width and get a 10 speed mountain cassette for road bike. Anybody tried? BTW, I'm also aware of JTEK shiftmate to convert 10 speed shifters to work with 9 speed cassettes, but just curious to know if anybody has tried the 10 speed route. I have 9 speed 11/34 SRAM with all cogs loose so it would be question of finding a 30 tooth cog (where to buy?) and somehow getting narrower spacers. ( I also already have a mountain shimano LX RD) Thanks! |
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Okay ... The few times I've restacked a cassette it was to add a bigger cog onto an existing cassette ... For example, I added a 28t to someone's 8-speed 12-24 stack ... I added a 32t to one of my 12-27, 9-speed Ultegra cassettes. I added a 26t to a 12-23, 9-speed Chorus stack that I have. On this particular cassette, I also changed the smallest cog to an 11t. In all cases, I found it was easier to simply add the "appropriate" cog onto a given stack and then subtract one of the intermediate cogs in the 14-to-17 range. THAT's my way of saying that if I were looking for a DIY 10-speed MTB cassette (vs. using a 10-speed IRD cassette) that I would start with a 10-speed Shimano ROAD cassette & piggyback a 9-speed 32t-or-34t LX cog onto the back end rather than trying to take a 9-speed MTB cassette & shave the spacers to the smaller width. N.B. I found that an 8-tooth difference in tooth count in adjacent cogs was easily managed with Shimano rear derailleurs ... and, apparently, based on SRAM's gappy MTB stack & Shimano's MEGA-stack cassettes, my observation is not unique ... I've only piggyback ONE cog onto the end of a stack; but, I guess I wouldn't have too many qualms about stacking a 30t + 34t on a xx-24/25/26/whatever 10-speed cassette. Either a 'lone' 32t or a 'lone' 34t stacked on a 11-27 cassette would definitely work if it is just a bailout cog. Of course, you need to decide which of the intermediate cogs you want to eliminate ... the 'extra' 10-speed spacer will be sandwiched between the "regular" cassette & the piggybacked 9-speed cog. |
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I've read a lot about IRD cassettes; they don't work. The cassettes I have (10 speed) seem to have the last three cogs (biggest ) all in one assembly... so just break them apart? |
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Because I wanted lower gearing, I piggybacked a larger cog onto an existing stack ... So, presuming you have one of the following 10-speed Shimano cassettes: 11-21Then I would add the following cogs from a 9-speed LX cassette & probably choose the following stacks: 11-21 .~~~~~~26 30 34 --> 11-13-15-17~~~~~~~~~.18-19-21.~~~~~~26 30 34You might prefer to omit different intermediate cogs. You could probably re-stack an 11-21 with just a 30t bailout cog ... The fewer the number of cogs you piggyback onto the back end, the better the indexing will be -- if you only add one cog, then the shifting should still be perfect ... two cogs, & you may-or-may-not want to reduce the thickness of the last spacer by an infinitesimal amount (draw a flat file lightly across it once-or-twice) OR both by an even lesser amount ... three cogs could become problematic unless the thickness of one-or-two of the spacers is reduced. I don't know how good-or-bad IRD cassettes actually are since I don't have one; but, I would always presume that a Shimano cassette would shift smoother than any of the others since everyone else is playing catch-up with Shimano's R&D with regard to ramping (and/or pinning when including chainrings in the discussion). |
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This is really easier than what I expected. I'll try it this weekend. I'll be modifying a 12/15... We'll see how it goes. |
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Am I doing it right? Do I remove the Mavik spacer? Do I need a longer lock ring? Thanks! |
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The spacer probably/undoubtedly compensates for the slight recess in the cassette's spider ... and, removing it will allow the single cog to 'sit' in the same plane as the 27t cog formerly/(currently) sat/(sits) in. You should not need a longer lock ring. |
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BTW. You may need to tweak the stops & indexing because you will have theoretically bumped the cassette outward by a fraction of a millimeter (~0.18mm?) ... it might be fractionally more-or-less because I don't know how thick that MAVIC spacer that you remove is. The function of the spacer is to ensure that certain cassettes like your 12-27 don't sit too close to the spokes and thereby cause the chain to be too close to the spokes when the chain is on the largest cog. |
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