Bike test: old vs new, on a climb, with SRM - Page 2

Dietmar · #16 10-21.-2009

I agree that this test wasn't worth much, but in my view, it actually does show that all this blather about the positive effects of "stiffness" is complete nonsense. One feature that people haven't commented on yet is that the Lapierre had a state-of-the-art 10-speed drivetrain, while the Pinarello steed was a six-speed. That alone is probably sufficient to explain the lower power output of the riders, who have a significantly reduced gear selection, and thus more difficulty keeping their cadence in the optimal range. Other than that, yeah, on a pure climb the lighter bike will be faster, duh...

frenchyge · #17 10-21.-2009

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Originally Posted by Dietmar

...it actually does show that all this blather about the positive effects of "stiffness" is complete nonsense.

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Originally Posted by Dietmar

on a pure climb the lighter bike will be faster, duh...

Funny thing, though, is that both the author and the reknown field expert missed the obvious "duh" point, and attributed the results to the marketing blather instead -- despite the refuting test evidence collected.

That stinks of intentionally misleading and self-serving propaganda in my book.

531Aussie · #18 10-21.-2009

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Originally Posted by frenchyge

There wasn't a lot of space left after writing about the credentials of the physiologist, the rider bios, scoring rider perceptions during the 30 min ride around, detailed photos and descriptions the components, etc. All was designed to make the reader believe in the 'test', although it was nothing more than a review.

The writer already knew which would win because years in the profession have left him proficient in matching the company name on his paycheck with the brand name on one of the given test bikes. That's the easiest type of 'experiment' to run. Even better since he used a 1983 bike as Brand X, so he doesn't even have to piss off the company whose bike didn't win. Next month there'll probably be a new Pinarello that'll make us the hottest thing on 2 wheels.

Ha!

I rarely read magazine reviews anymore, especially those in the Aussie mags, however, it's somtimes fun see how the reviewers totally sugar-coat the aspects of a bike they don't like.

At least this guy had the guts to bag this carbon BH:

BH Global Concept G-3 L83. Review - BikeRadar

531Aussie · #19 10-21.-2009

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Originally Posted by alienator

There are more credible results in an astrology column in the paper.

ha!

Dietmar · #20 10-22.-2009

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Originally Posted by frenchyge

Funny thing, though, is that both the author and the reknown field expert missed the obvious "duh" point, and attributed the results to the marketing blather instead -- despite the refuting test evidence collected.

That stinks of intentionally misleading and self-serving propaganda in my book.

Yes. In addition, one may wonder if they really didn't compare the bikes on a flat run as well. Would have been a logical thing to do, wouldn't it? Unfortunately, in that case they may have found no difference between the two bikes (heck, maybe the Pinarello would have proven to be the faster bike, even...), destroying the whole preconceived concept of the article.

In any case, it is important to remind ourselves that these bike magazines, as a whole, are nothing but oversized advertisement catalogs, published to help manufacturers sell bikes and stuff, and that that's all there is to these rags.

64Paramount · #21 10-22.-2009

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Originally Posted by peter@vecchios

yep but after a 4 hour ride on the lapierre, the rider couldn't walk and all his fillings were loose, causing him to lose a day of training because he had to go to the dentist.

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Originally Posted by alienator

there are more credible results in an astrology column in the paper.

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the writer already knew which would win because years in the profession have left him proficient in matching the company name on his paycheck with the brand name on one of the given test bikes.

:d lol....

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