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Would Phos fuel be catalystic in short track races (running) such as the 3000m run?
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leaving aside any discussion on moral/ethical grounds, it's hardly a "marginally better performance". We found an increase of ~ 8%, which represents a highly significant increase, and by way of a comparison (not a suggestion!) is only slightly below the increase from Epo supplementation (~ 10%).

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while your wasting your time, you might want to check out the article in the NY Times today from Columbia University on muscle fatigue mechanism...........oh course now i understand the Na2PO4 stops the leak of calcium into the muscles, ric your so smart...
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I used to use So Phos when I was racing semi-pro. The stuff is the BOMB (no other way to put it).

It was really funny. You could always tell who was using it. They would go from finishing in the back to being up in the front.

I used it only a couple times per year. Honestly, it worked so well, I was worried it was doing something really bad to the body.

Endorphine, it would certainly help in an event that length. Just be really conservative with how you use it.
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Ric in your latest article you uses Sodium phosphate tribasic dodecahydrate from Sigma–Aldrich (UK). When I go to the website of Sigma-Aldrich I see 5 different products with Sodium phosphate tribasic dodecahydrate (Na3PO4 · 12H2O, Formula Weight:380.12, CAS Number:10101-89-0). Which one is usable for humans?

The products I find are:
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S7778 SigmaUltra, ≥98.0% (titration) (Sigma)
S1001 ≥98% (Sigma)
71908 BioUltra, ≥98.0% (T) (Fluka)
71911 puriss. p.a., ACS reagent, ≥98.0% (T) (Fluka)
04277 puriss., ≥98% (Riedel-de Haën)
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I used to use So Phos when I was racing semi-pro. The stuff is the BOMB (no other way to put it).
I tried it last year in for a TT as the first stage of a stage race. I did do about 4% better power in the TT than I did in training leading up to the event but I have no way of telling if that was because of:

1) the sodium phosphate
2) resting and tapering correctly prior to the event
3) the excitement of the race environment
4) all of the above
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If you are all really that interested in it, nothing you can not find in the bodybuilding world to give you an advantage...may give it a try myself...never heard of this stuff.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ecaps/day.html

I was scanning the posts and it has the tribasic type you folks were mentioning.

Just to make the playing field even....when everyone does it, it does not matter anymore.

Who needs to be spending thousands on a bike when for $13 you can have it all....lol.

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I tried it last year in for a TT as the first stage of a stage race. I did do about 4% better power in the TT than I did in training leading up to the event but I have no way of telling if that was because of:

1) the sodium phosphate
2) resting and tapering correctly prior to the event
3) the excitement of the race environment
4) all of the above

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