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I am away at New Zealand Road Cycling Champs for the next few days so will be pretty busy doing some actual coaching. Think it has been covered pretty well on Slowtwitch but what conclusions can we draw?

7 Elite riders had an optimal cadence of 80rpm on an indoor trainer.

I await further research on other groups with better sample sizes that will help coaches like myself with prescribing cadence for road cycling, track cycling or MTB or in sub elite or Professional cyclists.

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Hamish Ferguson: Cycling Coach
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So, your week is up. Has further research proved which way elite riders should wipe their a$s after a bike ride?

Thought I would post this link for Coach "efficiency doesn't mean anything" Fergie for possible comment.

CycleOps Power News, Athletes, and Training - Dr. Lim?s Tips for Improving Cycling Efficiency

Well if you don't understand cycling, physiology, physics, biomechanics then I can see how you can misunderstand (or is it misrepresent Frank) my position on efficiency.

Also suggest you do your homework on Allen Lim before you hold him up as your poster boy for cycling physiology.

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Exactly what is your position on cycling efficiency? How have I misrepresented it? Here is what you wrote in post 1372 of another thread"

"Because an increase in efficiency does not = an increase in performance."

It is a part of performance but it's moot as you have no good data showing that using Gimmickcranks has an effect on efficiency. If you look back further you will find Jim Martin's report on Luttrells presentation at ACSM where he got laughed off stage. Hasn't published anything since.

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Well, you may disagree with Luttrell's data but you have said before, when discussing this paper, that efficiency does not affect performance. So, if some data does come along that you agree with that shows GC's positively effect efficiency, from this we can conclude, at that time, you will accept that GC's have some training role to play? Wow, that is a big step forward.

Whole lot of people disagree with Luttrell.

From "efficiency is a component of performance" do you arrive at "efficiency does not affect performance"?

A big step would be a proper study published in a physiology journal, (not strength and conditioning) that showed any form of auxillary training had an influence on a direct measure of performance.

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Until then, one is stuck with the data that is there. Luttrell just happens to be part of the total data set. The fact that some people do not like Luttrell is not evidence the data is wrong. It may be simply that Luttrell goes against some of their long-held biases. The only way Luttrell can be "undone" is to replicate the study and get a completely different result.

Nice revisionist theory Frank, but science it ain't. Try again.

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Repeating myself from Slowtwitch but I think it is clear that efficiency like most things in cycling is very specific. Riding a bike at low cadence is more efficient and one does use more muscle through the pedal stroke. Many coaches prescribe low rpm exercises and other like Hunter Allen and Allen Lim prescribe one leg drills. But where does the science sit with this. Do we assume that because rider A trains one way or coach B sets these programmes that they are correct. No the science is pretty clear that one should train as they intend to perform. So rather than efficiency which is measure in the lab on an erg with a gas analyser and taking into account that Cadel Evan's efficiency did not improve from 2000-2005 despite a marked increase in performance over that period or amount of muscle used or power while riding with belly on saddle, steering with the legs and pedalling with the arms if the goal is to ride the bike faster the science shows that training to ride the bike faster in the position you will race in, in the conditions you will race in, on the bike you will race in, in the weather you will race in is optimal.

WRT Luttrell, funny how it sounds like pretty much every sport scientist at the ACSM presentation had a bias against the quality of research and the findings. Makes you think!

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