Fat boy needs help - Page 2

Powerful Pete · #16 10-24.-2006

It is relatively straightforward.

1. Watch what you eat, and lower the intake.
2. Ride regularly. Don't worry about intensity levels if you are 300lbs. Just ride as much and as often as you can (6 days a week if you can handle it).

A few pointers that have helped me lose weight in the past (u already know this, but it helps to remember).

1. Drink a LOT of water every day.
2. Drink no alcohol.
3. Limit (but do not eliminate) carbos.
4. Limit to the maximum your sugar/fat intake.
5. Snack on fruit mid-morning & mid-afternoon to take the hunger edge off.
6. Ride!

Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. These pointers worked for me. YMMV!

Best of luck!

Dondare · #17 10-25.-2006

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Originally Posted by sugaken

Gee, where did you get that idea? It's a complete rubbish. It's the intensity that determines the ratio of fat:sugar you burn from the workout. Lower the intensity is, the more fat you burn, and vice versa.

Actually high intensity exercise burns at least as much fat as low intensity exercise, but much more sugar, so you tire a lot quicker. Low intensity exercise burns fat slowly but because you can keep going longer you end up burning more.

PATCASH · #18 10-26.-2006

steve you are right! i have been doing the same fast and furious ride loosing a lot of calories my intake is less but something is missing, and you just told me, longer rides and easy. i have been biking with the furiuos group!!! hehehehe
thanks! this is my first time in a forum and i have been taking a lot of great info to plan!
pc

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Originally Posted by ZimboNC

My opinion is that it really doesn't matter what you eat so long as you burn more calories than you eat. And you're not going to know that unless you track your intake/expenditure using a tracker like FitDay.com (or some other free site like FitDay).

To burn a lot of calories you're going to need to be able to stay on the bike long enough to burn a lot of calories. Sounds dumb, right? But it means going nice and easy rather than fast and furious.

As tempted as you're going to be to try to drop 100 pounds in 100 days, the best chance you have to meet your long term fitness goals is to lose about 1 pound per week. That means an average daily caloric deficit of only 500 calories.

Having said that, I'll share with you what might be an unpopular opinion: the key to losing weight is NOT burning more calories. The key is consuming fewer calories. This forum and many other forums like it are filled with people who burn thousands and thousands of calories each week from exercise and still wish they could lose 5, 10, 15, or even 50 pounds.

--Steve

normZurawski · #19 10-28.-2006

fitday.com - burn 500 calories more than you eat every day. No more. It's that simple.

All the other posts are merely suggestions of how you attain the item above. I have been through them all. Some work for me, some don't. YMMV. Figure out which ones work for you. And don't give up easily.

Also know that it takes a long long time to make changes permanent.

YMCA · #20 10-28.-2006

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Originally Posted by normZurawski

fitday.com - burn 500 calories more than you eat every day. No more. It's that simple.

All the other posts are merely suggestions of how you attain the item above. I have been through them all. Some work for me, some don't. YMMV. Figure out which ones work for you. And don't give up easily.

Also know that it takes a long long time to make changes permanent.

First - what is "YMMV"

Second- this guy is trying to lose BIG weight. Shouldn't he try eating about 1000-1500 calories less than burned per day? That'd be 2-3 lbs per week and I'd think he'd still be able to keep his energy with plenty of whole foods.

normZurawski · #21 10-28.-2006

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Originally Posted by YMCA

First - what is "YMMV"

Second- this guy is trying to lose BIG weight. Shouldn't he try eating about 1000-1500 calories less than burned per day? That'd be 2-3 lbs per week and I'd think he'd still be able to keep his energy with plenty of whole foods.

YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary, aka what works for me may or may not work for you.

He can surely shoot for the big calorie deficit in the beginning. But it's not going to last. Plateaus and disappointment may very well set in. Motivation drops, etc etc. A lot of people who drop big weight, later put on big weight. By doing it slow & steady, and (IMO) introducing only 1 new life changing element per month, the changes will be much more likely to stick.

Again, YMMV with all of this. But this is my experience, having gone from 280+ to 190.

gimpy_calfee · #22 10-28.-2006

Drink nothing with calories in it. That mean's cut out any juice, gatoraide, regular pop, alcohol, any sugar or cream in coffee or tea, milk. 100 calories in a glass of orange juice per day is 35000 calories a year or worth about 10 lbs all things being equal. You really shouldn't need calories in a riding drink unless you are going > than 2 hours or at real high intensity. Don't eat bread on the side of any meal. Decrease your portions. No deserts. Don't eat if you are not hungry and ride regularly 4-5 days a week.

A calorie is a calorie is a calorie.
A snickers takes one minute to eat and 30-45 minutes of riding to burn off (unless your really hoofing it).

Scott

normZurawski · #23 10-28.-2006

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Originally Posted by gimpy_calfee

You really shouldn't need calories in a riding drink unless you are going > than 2 hours or at real high intensity.

Maybe not need, but I think the OP should take in calories during any ride. Ideally, you would eat constantly. Bike time is just like any other time. At 300 pounds, he's going to burn like 3000 calories in a 2 hour ride. Probably a good idea to not go into such a hole, lest he come home and slingshot the other way and overeat to compensate.

gimpy_calfee · #24 10-28.-2006

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Originally Posted by normZurawski

Maybe not need, but I think the OP should take in calories during any ride. Ideally, you would eat constantly. Bike time is just like any other time. At 300 pounds, he's going to burn like 3000 calories in a 2 hour ride. Probably a good idea to not go into such a hole, lest he come home and slingshot the other way and overeat to compensate.

Well, I think you have to be careful on a longer ride, but he will burn more like 1200 calories on a 2 hour long L2 ride. You want him to burn those things off. He has glycogen strored up and unless he is going anaerobic frequently he shouldn't bonk. A lot depends on the difficulty of the 2 hours....

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