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Training for this is relativly easy...

*Increase VO2 max using short intervals.

How short ?

ie: no shorter then ....... no longer then ........

if you have already stated this earlier, I missed it.

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How short ?
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if you have already stated this earlier, I missed it.
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Yep, you did miss it but this was partly my fault.

Used the term Maximal Aerobic Power (MAP) instead of VO2 max (almost the same). Do intervals between 4 and 10 minutes long riding as hard as you can for the duration.
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Yep, you did miss it but this was partly my fault.

Used the term Maximal Aerobic Power (MAP) instead of VO2 max (almost the same). Do intervals between 4 and 10 minutes long riding as hard as you can for the duration.
I thought as much but I was interested on what you had to say. we are working 4 to 8 minutes for our (MAP)

Unfortunately we don’t have power meters, only HR monitors, but we do have constant resistance loads.

Curious thing, that I thought I’d raise (looking for a scientific perspective)
When we do MSLL (MLSS) training ( we do this for 30 minutes) HR is very close to what we do in the 4 to 8 min blocks some times within only one or two beats, some times even a little higher.

I’m thinking the power generated for each pedal stroke for the 30 minute block is less then the 8 min block. I have no way of testing this.

Maybe this should be in the HR Zone thread, but there is an endurance question in here somewhere too.

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Is it possible to fit a formule that gives a general comparation between maximum average power and the time you can hold it? It might be possible to find such a formula to fit a lot of personal records....

With how long cycling can I compare MLSS? 1/2hour or 1 hour?
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Is it possible to fit a formule that gives a general comparation between maximum average power and the time you can hold it? It might be possible to find such a formula to fit a lot of personal records....
Have a look at the 'critical power' research. In calculating critical power, people often complete a number of rides at set power outputs and plot these on a graph. Join these dots with a curve and it will give you some idea of how long you can maintain a specific power output for.
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With how long cycling can I compare MLSS? 1/2hour or 1 hour?
Not sure what you mean by this, but depending upon a number of factors MLSS could be maintained for 20 to 60 minutes. The test used to calculate this is usualy based on 3 or more 20 minutes efforts at set power putputs. The testing requires carefully controled conditions (i.e. not a turbo in a shed), a power meter and lactate measurements.
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