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See, you're doing it again. I think he's referring to the mistaken notion that winning (or palmares) go hand in hand with knowledge. IOW, if Hampsten knows what he's talking about because he won the Giro, does it imply that those who didn't win it are less informed about proper training?

It's kinda like Armstrong winning the Tour 7 times because of Carmichael, or Taylor Phinney winning the Worlds at 18 because of what his parents taught him.

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What Piotr said. Nothing personal, it's just surprising how often folks try to pass that off.

I have over 3800 internet forum posts, which apparently makes me well-qualified to point out ridiculous internet logic.

ok, sorry, i didn't mean to make it personal either. Anyway, I forgot to say that the long training rides wihout carbs should be at LOW intensity

Look into the Targeted Ketogenic Diet (tkd) -http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/ .

I looked into as I’m pre-diabetic and usually do better losing weight by reducing carb intake. A ketogenic diet is high in protein and fat with less than 100 grams of carbs per day.

When you’re in ketosis, the body is depleted of glycogen. A targeted ketogenic diet allows you to consume carbs before your workouts. This diet allows for “carb loading” and super glycogen compensation occurs. Once you start consuming carbs after being depleted, your body supposedly overcompensates and more glycogen is stored in your body. This is truly “carb loading”. There was a study done on cyclists –really nothing special. On average there was no benefit to this overcompensation – one cyclists had an abnormally high performance –apparently it skewed the results…..as I recall some of the power data was actually lower.

From a personal perspective, training on a ckd or tkd is tough. Doing a tempo ride for an hour was not easy. However, I will say I felt much, much better during stage races. I didn’t experience the level of fatigue I encountered during training. Guess I should have done better……..race tactics are another topic....

It's somewhat unlikely that you are 100% replacing what glycogen you use while doing multi-hour rides, so in effect, you are doing this anyway.

You get enough of this on regular rides so now you're supposed to go out and also specifically train this way too? Why bother? It seems daft.