Toe-Out Right side...because of car gas pedal?

hi
i had a situation with new shoes and during realized that both myself and another rider have "toe out" on the right side compared to the left. I was thinking why this would be and realized we both drive with our right foot, like just about everyone else. What i do and i'm sure is common for many is have there foot at quite an angle when using the gas, "toe out." Most people have spent quite some time in their cars and i think this could be a cause. I'm going to use 2 washers to put the pedal out a little more so i can have more toe out, because i have had knee pain on just the right side while having zero issues on the left leg. What do you guys think about the gas pedal theory?

PS plz dont talk about foot angle(cleat shims) or seat height, been there done that.

I have the same toe out on my right side as well.

So, you don't want to talk about other factors that could be in play. You only want to discuss your theory. Ok. Well, the amount of time we spend driving is a very short interval in our lives, so scientifically it's far from proven that such a biomechanical alteration is the result of driving. I don't pedal with my right toe out. Nope. Never have.

I've spent a significantly greater portion of my life hanging to the right, yet I don't sit off to the left on the saddle to give John Thomas more room. I'm also right handed and don't favor my right hand on the handlebars.

Next: do you sit toes in on the toilet and if so does that correlate with toe position on the bike?

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exactly! its called staying on topic. we are dicussing, and hopefully only discussing the possible effect of people who drive with their foot at an angle(toe out) when using the gas pedal.

wrong. in YOUR life. are you young?, young people tend to believe what applies in their lives applies in everyone else's, giving them the view that they're always right. i calculated ive done about 2000 hours of driving in my life so far, im 25, thats significant if its done nearly everyday and sometimes for 5-7 hours.
society has programmed you well. ok, so this doesnt apply to you! move along

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since there's no gas pedal attached to a toilet, though it would be awesome if there was, no.

Hey, it's good to see you came in wearing your asshat.

Well considering it's such a narrow topic, with little chance of having anything proven, it didn't seem out of line to try and bring a little reasoned thought to the table. Why endanger a poor hypothesis with ideas that challenge it?


Golly, Opie. You've spent a whopping 0.913% of your life driving. Granted, no one can take from you the massive amount of wisdom you've accumulated in the breadth of your 25 years on Earth. After all, 25 years: ooooooo doggie! I'd be surprised if the Dalai Lama doesn't seek your advice.

On the other hand, you've spent approximately 71,000 hours sleeping so maybe foot position on the bike is influenced by the position in which you sleep.

Quoi? Learn me about this social programming of which you know so much, please. Silly me, I was using the measily 20ish years as a scientist to question your hypothesis and basing my questioning on the fact that wild claims must provide proof. That is, after all, how science, and specifically scientific method works. FWIW, you can google "scientific method" iffin' you want to learn what it means. In fact, scientific method is based on the idea that theories are only born when hypotheses are proven (or if proving the negation, disproven) by repeatable experiments.

Meh. You talk big but bring no intelligence to the table, but you do bring a dearth of critical thinking skills.

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When driving a car, you are sitting, and so the angle of your foot has no bearing on anything. Try sitting, observe others sitting... I think you will find that most people have their feet splayed out. When riding a bike, particularly when well positioned on one, you are not sitting but straddling. It's more like standing than sitting. Whatever you do with your accelerator foot means nothing to cycling, because cycling is more like walking than it is like driving (unless maybe you're riding a recumbent). Is your saddle too low?

I've wondered the same. My right foot is definitely more out than left and my knee gets a bit sore after a longish drive (2-3 hrs). There's probably a reason why they put that cruise control in the car.

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We use leg muscles to reach for the accellerator or twist the leg, so it's plausible that the muscles become conditioned to some degree.

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