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Just think if tests came back positive....there would be a suspension. In the heat of the moment, others would be named. More banned or suspended. Those in turn name names. Guess what the whole Tour is suspended and big money goes bye-bye. Never going to happen. Only after their time like Carl Lewis will people admit to it.

A buddy of mine was in the NFL and couldn't believe how much stuff guys would take......he of course said he was clean though at 340 lbs and benching 600
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His drug is training.

He just trains the crap out of himself and pushes himself. If he did drugs he would have been caught, he must have done hundreds of tests.
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His drug is training.

He just trains the crap out of himself and pushes himself. If he did drugs he would have been caught, he must have done hundreds of tests.
I don't know whether LA dopes or not, but that logic is terrible.
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Great post!

American media---generally cannot (advertising business is the primary objective) discuss doping other than to minimize it and pretend it is an "isolated to a very few cheaters" problem.

They even shouted down the classy Greg LeMond.

Any doping opinions may be expressed in Op-Ed pieces in a few newspapers---and they are often met with extreme criticism and threats by the advertisers or agents of any athlete mentioned.

eg: Nike athletes, Lance Armstrong, Marion Jones, or Barry Bonds are all rumored to use synthetic hormones---but no published proof---yet. Innocent until proven guilty, so to speak. Still the rumors won't go away.

Watch for Sna Franciso based BALCO Federal Grand Jury transcripts---if they are ever released. WOW! It took an IRS agent to bust sports dopers.

So much for USADA or the IOC or NFL, or MLB or any federation.
Definitely some interesting observations there. I've never made the connection that many of the athletes accused of doping are sponsored by Nike. I suppose it's probably coincidence but who knows?
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I don't know whether LA dopes or not, but that logic is terrible.
None of us really know for sure but I have to agree with you. It's not even logic really.
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I think that LA is doping unless of course he is not doping and therefore I firmly believe he is not doping except of course if he is then most likely I will believe that he is doping unless he isn't.

So I stand firmly stand with no doubt in my mind on the side of he may or may not dope and that is my firm position.

The above is subject to change without notice.
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Haha, so what did you vote?
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Haha, so what did you vote?
I didn't vote in this pole at all simply because my answer is that I'm completely undecided (which in my opinion should've been included as an option in this pole). I can see very compelling points on both sides of the argument. I really don't understand how anyone can take a firm position on either side of this argument when the fact of the matter is that only Armstrong and (maybe) a few other people really know for certain. But the poll does read "do you think Lance is doping", so if some folks are able to form an absolute opinion based on what amounts to zero factual evidence, so be it. I'd like to believe he's not doping but I'm just not quite naive enough (although close maybe) to just blindly believe that he's clean. Especially with all of the riders that have either admitted to or have been busted doping lately!

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Flyer--
Great post.
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The worst thing that could ever happen to cycling is if Lance was found to be doping. The consequences would be monumental. I personally don't believe Lance is doping but after this scandal involving Tyler Hamilton I have some doubts. If cycling continues the way it does you risk losing the youth like myself. I love cycling but it can't carry on the way it does. The superstars need to set an example and cut out all this suspicion.
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The worst thing that could ever happen to cycling is if Lance was found to be doping. The consequences would be monumental.
It will fire revolution
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El Lotto:

Do not dispair. Cycling is a GREAT sport, can be very healthy, and is quite social too. And you can do it your whole life.

Cycling does not depend on Lance Armstrong. It never did, It depends on fun loving energic folls like you.

There are plenty of great role models---not associated with trauma dope matters in your local area. Get to know them

All Champions fade away eventually, but what remains is what we make of it.

Cycling is what we make of it, as is life.

Flying faster now.

Well put. Do it because you love it. And it ain't hard to love...
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The worst thing that could ever happen to cycling is if Lance was found to be doping. The consequences would be monumental. I personally don't believe Lance is doping but after this scandal involving Tyler Hamilton I have some doubts. If cycling continues the way it does you risk losing the youth like myself. I love cycling but it can't carry on the way it does. The superstars need to set an example and cut out all this suspicion.
Only problem is that (most likely) they wouldn't be superstars without the dope. Doesn't matter though. I like to bodybuild. In my youth I actually thought that hard training and eating and some vitamins and protein powder would make me like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Lou Ferrigno. ALL publications of that time either didn't mention Steroids or that nobody ever took them. I have old Muscle and Fitness mags that say this. Eventually with age and the fact that I still wasn't anywhere near huge and ripped I discovered as well as the magazines started talking about roids. Now supposedly they drug test pro bodybuilding. If anyone believes this (unless drug testing is for only weed) nobody and I mean nobody would pass. If you believe they are clean then you probably believe that the trails left behind some airplanes all of the world on a regular basis every couple days or so since about 1997 that turn into clouds are normal or healthy too. But that's another conspiracy....I still love to lift though, doesn't matter about the roid freaks taking gorilla hormones and other crap...I love biking too. Just don't idolize people, it's not good because they do do wrong eventually and if you read the bible it is a sin too.
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OF COURSE LANCE IS DOPING !!

whilst overcoming cancer he admitted to using EPO in order to "replenish" his red blood cells. Are you going to stand here and tell me that an athlete in his position would not have abused this.

Lance is a doper and thats the bottom line
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OF COURSE LANCE IS DOPING !!

whilst overcoming cancer he admitted to using EPO in order to "replenish" his red blood cells. Are you going to stand here and tell me that an athlete in his position would not have abused this.

Lance is a doper and thats the bottom line
Great logic - you must be quite a bright fellow!
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