Do you think lance is doping? yes or no - Page 53

The obvious choice for today's athlete is gene-doping...reproduce your 'own' muscles. Currently undectable. Only way to notice in someone like Lance will be that he will weigh one or two kilos more than last time. FWIW All the weight will be in the quads. So he will weigh 73-74 kg if I remember correctly...

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-Meek
"Some people train to look pretty. I just train so I can be the strongest man there is. And then again, I'm already pretty." -Magnus Samuelsson

I'm actually very excited about the future of cycling after this year's Giro and Tour. Positives were minimal and caught very quickly. Lance raced clean and did exceptionally well using a combination of hard work, natural ability, cunning (the breakaway was critical) and a level playing field. Any argument that he was smarter about doping than others is bunk. Plenty of well financed riders that lead teams (Heras, Vino, Millar, Hamilton et.al) were bagged for doping. There is no way to beat the system and the sooner everyone learns that the better off the sport will be. We now need to move to a four year suspension for a confirmed positive and a lifetime ban thereafter. We need to be sure that sufficient safeguards are in place to avoid false positives and false bans/accusations as these are people's livelihoods we are talking about (and careers).

Anyone who thinks Lance doped, step forward with facts, not conjecture. And certainly do not try to rely upon ten year old tests completed by French labs with unknown credentials and motivtions. For those who think that Lance doped this year with all of the tests and disclosure, then you obviously just like conspiracies (and are comfortable with ignoring facts). Ignorance is bliss, I guess..

Read the book "Le sale Tour". It is in French only as far as I know. It contains facts and analysis that few of us here can go after. The authors make it their business to write about facts...

We can believe that cycling is cleaner this year but it's difficult to believe that it was clean after looking at the power of riders. The top riders are not close of the powers produced before the oxygen boosters (EPO, transfusion, hemopure, PFC...) were available
There is still a lot of other undetectable PED.

Don't forget that the large majority of athletes stated that they will dope to win an Olympic medal if they were sure to not be caught!

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6 +2 (according Ashenden) samples with EPO should have banned Lance Armstrong to start next TDF !

Don't forget that EPO is a naturally produced substance.If a cyclist trained at high altitude ,extracted some blood and transufused it back in when needed......well possibilities exist.
Of course this is only theroretical and I have never personally seen anyone do it.

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Dope,when training and talent just aren't enough.

I am open minded to this question, but unless it is proven otherwise, I will believe that he isn't doping.
The possibility that Lance has doped is always there, but the possible is not proof.