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ive tried it all. however, i mix my own gatoraid now and again. they mix it to 1-2%. lame! i mix it to 9%!!! way more affective. i think the best energy drink in the world is the stuff that costs the least. its true. unless you burn out thousands of cals per day on the bike, dont think too hard. get the cheap stuff that tastes the best to you. if you start riding more than 2 hours, your solid food choice is more important. |
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Be careful with Gatorade. They sell a bunch of different products, and some are not very good. They do have a good line, but the stuff they sell in the grocery stores usually is not the good line. I just purchase Cytomax, which I get online. I like the taste and it works for me. There are a bunch of similar products, try them and find one that works. |
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My recomendation is to try High 5 (you can get it from completehealth.com.au) its not as sweet and comes (at least in Australia) in a wider range of flavors. I also find the High 5 bars are nicer then the Powerbar ones as well, but thats personal as the Powerbar range tends to upset my stomach.
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I still use gatorade only in the gym but for riding I still had problems with cramps and lactic acid especially around 1.5 to 2hours on the mtb so I switched the Endura mix one now, not as sweet, tastes disgusting but it does the job. has some extra magnesium or some other Ions. I don't get into the technical info it too much but I know it works me. Plus I feed on gels every 30 to 45 minutes but I avoid the ones with caffiene Last edited by Rockslayer; 09-29.-2006 at 02:24 AM. |
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sod the gatorade and all the other expensive sports drinks. sure they work but there are tons of recipes on the net for people to be able to make their own sports drinks at a fraction of the price- just takes a small amount of time and effort. mix one part orange juice to one part water (provides sugar in an isotonic concentration and a fair dose of potassium, an important electrolyte), and then add a pinch of sea salt (provides sodium and chloride in easily assimilated forms, two important electrolytes) and one eighth of a teaspoon of calcium/ magnesium powder (provides calcium and magnesium, two minerals important for healthy muscle function). a pot of calc/ mag powder can be bought for as little as £10 and gives you a kilos worth- gonna last for a long time with only using a fraction of a teaspoon at a time. alex. |
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Seems as though many sports beverages have "special" ingredients and high prices. Standard Gatorade is good, and inexpensive, but lacks sufficient sodium to replenish what is lost through sweat. Gatorade Endurance makes up for this shortcoming, but gives up some flavor quality in doing so, and is slightly more expensive. My personal preference is to mix my own drink one gallon at a time and keep it chilled in the fridge for immediate use. Here is my recipe, based upon the general guidelines of the exercise science/nutrition community: 1 Gallon Water 8oz. (wt) Granulated Sugar 2 Packets Kool-Aid (any unsweetened flavor) 1 tsp. Morton's Lite Salt 3/4 tsp. Sea Salt 1 pinch Calcium/Magnesium Powder |
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Well, I think it's an excellent starting point. It really depends on the individuals needs for salt replacement, although that's pretty hard to guage. I suppose it's better to err on the side of caution, especially considering there is salt in everything now days, so maybe less in the drink is good, and add more as needed? That's my only suggestion. I might add a squirt of lemon juice to give it more zip! ![]() I'll definitely try it out. |
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I almost missed the second part of the question at the beginning of the thread. Recovery drinks can be a huge help in rapidly replenishing muscular glycogen (energy for high intensity) stores immediately following exercise, with little risk of the calories being stored as fat . This allows you to maximize your workout intensity the next time out by ensuring fuel is available for hard(er) efforts. The closer together your workouts are (i.e. daily or twice a day), the more important a recovery drink may be. In addition, the protein content of many recovery drinks gives the body the raw material it needs to repair any muscular trauma caused during exercise. In this role, proteins derived from animal sources (whey, milk, STEAK ) are superior to those derived from plant sources (soy), due to the presence of certain essential amino acids. The protein may also help the muscles store more glycogen (energy), but the studies are somewhat inconclusive. As with the sports drink, I use my own recipe for a recovery drink, based on the research of others and also upon my personal taste preferences.24 fl.oz. Skim Milk 2 oz. Nestle Quik Powder Drink IMMEDIATELY following exercise Pretty simple, huh? This recipe works for someone who is appoximately 75kg and should be adjusted for other weights as described below. The best part is that research suggests that this recipe and ones like it are every bit as effective as recovery drinks costing many times as much . The key is to make sure that you consume approximately 1 gram of carbohydrate per kilogram of body weight, and .25-.33g of protein per kilogram body weight. It can be in any form you like (I also will eat a bowl of sugary cereal with skim milk, or toast with sweetened jelly and a big glass of milk if the mood strikes me) Another important thing is to avoid fat consumption (sorry, no donuts )within the first hour following exercise, as it will slow the metabolism of the recovery drink/Meal. My rule of thumb is to drink one recovery drink immediately following exercise for moderate to intense training rides of 1-2 hours, and for specific recovery rides. If the ride is longer than 2 hours, I will drink another recovery drink or have a specific recovery meal one hour later. Using the methods I have outlined, you should be able to train hard and recover well with little other modification to an already-balanced daily diet. Hope this helps you get faster and save some money!!!
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On the subject of salt, I recall most the data I encountered on the subject of sweat suggested that sweat salinity varys little between individuals until the onset of hyponatremia. With that in mind, it would stand to reason that the above recipe will maintain bodily sodium concentrations at pre-exercise levels as long as a one for one fluid replacement plan is accurately employed. I regulate my dietary sodium intake rather carefully so I chose a sodium content similar to that of sweat. For others, especially those with hypertension, it may very well be wise to reduce the salt content of their sports drink. For the general public reading this, remember to weigh before and after exercise. For every pound lost during exercise, 24 fl.oz. of fluids should be consumed following exercise, and higher sodium foods may be consumed to replenish sodium lost through sweat. Also, apply the lessons learned to your next ride with similar intensity, duration, temperature, and humidity conditions. For every pound lost, drink one pint (16 fl.oz.) more sports drink the next time out under similar conditions, spread over the duration of the ride. This should prevent the weight loss, and mitigate any performance losses caused by mild dehydration. If anyone more learned cares to provide further insight, please do so! My brain hurts!
__________________ Foolproof ways to go faster: 1) Apply more force to the pedals, without reducing cadence. 2) Increase cadence, without reducing pedal force. 3) Employ gravity by avoiding climbs and descending more. 4) Always ride with a tailwind. Last edited by offthebackCT; 11-14.-2006 at 08:39 PM. |
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. This allows you to maximize your workout intensity the next time out by ensuring fuel is available for hard(er) efforts. The closer together your workouts are (i.e. daily or twice a day), the more important a recovery drink may be. In addition, the protein content of many recovery drinks gives the body the raw material it needs to repair any muscular trauma caused during exercise. In this role, proteins derived from animal sources (whey, milk, STEAK
) are superior to those derived from plant sources (soy), due to the presence of certain essential amino acids. The protein may also help the muscles store more glycogen (energy), but the studies are somewhat inconclusive. As with the sports drink, I use my own recipe for a recovery drink, based on the research of others and also upon my personal taste preferences.
. The key is to make sure that you consume approximately 1 gram of carbohydrate per kilogram of body weight, and .25-.33g of protein per kilogram body weight. It can be in any form you like (I also will eat a bowl of sugary cereal with skim milk, or toast with sweetened jelly and a big glass of milk if the mood strikes me) Another important thing is to avoid fat consumption (sorry, no donuts
)within the first hour following exercise, as it will slow the metabolism of the recovery drink/Meal. My rule of thumb is to drink one recovery drink immediately following exercise for moderate to intense training rides of 1-2 hours, and for specific recovery rides. If the ride is longer than 2 hours, I will drink another recovery drink or have a specific recovery meal one hour later. Using the methods I have outlined, you should be able to train hard and recover well with little other modification to an already-balanced daily diet. Hope this helps you get faster and save some money!!!





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