Kilowatt club - Page 4

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Of course I agree with you. I'm not saying every road cyclist out there should be focusing on max power - that would be rather pointless.

But the topic at hand IS max power, and since these riders are so severely undertrained in that area, I was just trying to help them realize that they can make very big gains if they put their mind to it.

We need to stop assuming every rider out there has the same goals. Some, like me, are interested in sprinting. Many, on the other hand, only care about sustained power, whether it be for 1 minute, or 5 hours.

Keep to the topic at hand, and stop reverting back to the general assumption of endurance cycling being the utmost important.

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All the info I have is of myself.

I'm a slow twitcher, when all is said and done. My vertical has ranged from 13, up to 17 inches when I was training it. I have a hard time putting on muscle.

With that said, I increased my 5 second power by 40-50% over the past 3 years, which I have been on/off training it. (age 18-21) I know if all variables are in my favor, I can do significantly more improvement. But work/school/weather keep me restrained unfortunetely. I very rarely feel at my optimum when I ride, mostly because I have to ride early in the day

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I would say neither of those (weights or plyos) will have any real affect on sprints longer than 15 seconds. I suppose it really depends on how well the individual is trained to being with.

Nothing beats training on the bike. Hands down.

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Well, I know that I "screwed up" a research study pretty good because my NM power (6 sec on ergometer) increased throughout the duration of the tests rather than decreaseing like everyone elses. Why? Well, to be honest I'd never done a sprint workout on the bike before that. The question is... was it trainability or simply me becoming familiar with the test protocal (maximizing current abilities within the given situation). fwiw, it was over 2 weeks and we did do numerous practice bouts beforehand... obviously not enough for me.

J

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Interesting, please tell us more

Seated 6 sec bouts on a 75kg weighted erg. One week of "practice" bouts and then a week of tests. Throughout the week of test bouts my power continued to improve whereas the other subjects (all experienced cyclists, cat 3 or above) power decreased.

My guess is that I was simply maximizing w/e small NM ability I have and/or learning how to really throw down for such a short effort (a seated 6sec max power burst isn't something most cyclists would be accustomed too, if I replicated it on the road I'm sure I would crash) because it was over such a short time span I can't see any compensation occuring. Maybe (n=1) it shows that peak NM numbers have as much to do with form and a learned action as they do ability?

Now, I don't really want to say why the other subjects power declined... the study isn't published yet. Trust me, it was tons of fun...

Justin

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hit 1516w yesterday as max. 1403 for 5s. i weigh 63kg.

were you using a powertap?

yea i was, i actually weigh 64.9kg (143lbs) though. i just reweighed myself. so 21.62w/kg for 5 sec. im a cat 2.

That's an excellent jump. I just wonder if it isn't slightly inflated because you are using a powertap. I'm also using a PT, but because of the way it samples I'm told that 5s power readings aren't quite as reliable as an SRM. Seems that if you can jump with that power day in and day out though, it ought to be right.

I'm curious, what are your best w/kg for 30 seconds, 2 1/2 minutes, 6 minutes, and 40 minutes?

Where are you competing?

only had my powertap for 2 months, so my data is limited.

30s: 14.05w/kg
2.5min: 7.31w/kg
6min: 5.54
40min: N/A

ive yet to do intervals at these lengths so , theyre probably a bit low. i race in NJ mainly, but i travel around the new england area. ive been racing for 1.5 years, and won a few cat 3 field sprints this season by 5-6 bike lengths.

Are you kidding?

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A friend pointed me in this direction, sooo, 1405 it is. I weigh 71-73kg, depending on the time of month....

No, but there could be some medals if that's accurate and you get yourself to a track...what was the 5 second average? See this chart: http://cyclingpeakssoftware.com/imag...profile_v4.gif

Yes I have the chart on my CP WKO software. 5-second average was 1331 - done in a 39x15. Other efforts averaged closer to 1100 but those were in bigger gear combos ie....53x15, 53x17, 53x16.

I don't know about medals, but track racing doesn't really appeal to me. I just find sprints enjoyable.