2008 Ftp? - Page 4

Are you using current weight or racing weight?

current was my intention. It's all about progress, not a fixed point in time ...

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BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

Good bye plateau and 5week chest infection!

Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

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[QUOTE=Squint]Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg

Impressive Squint, what pro team do you ride on?

I didn't know that using a Mac to post on this forum would effect power on the bike.

[QUOTE=BullGod]No offense to squint, but that ain't pro contract worthy...

5.22 @ 80+ kilos maybe.

Squint...............332W.......63.5 kg......5.22 W/kg
BullGod...............340W (KK)69kg......4.9W/Kg (elite, Benelux)
Markster...........344W......71kg.....4.85W/kg
Piotr..................260W.......54kg......4.8W/kg (M35+, Cat III, Utah)
Midbunchlurker....290w.......61.5kg....4.72W/Kg (35-39, Cape Town, SA)
PSUcycling..........310W.......68kg......4.56w/kg (cat 1,Tx, peak in april, 320w in '07)
rmur(Feb.08).......395W.......87kg......4.54 W/kg (M45-49, PT Pro, from long L4 intervals)
doctorSpoc.........250W.......55kg......4.5W/kg (M1/MB Ontario)
esammuli............292W......65.5kg.....4.46 W/kg (Cat IV, SoCal, soon to be Cat III)
bbrauer..............290W.......68kg.......4.26W/kg
Ade Merckx.........300W (KK)72kg.......4.16W/Kg (UK 3rd cat)
waterrockets.......335W.......80.9kg....4.14W/kg (M35+ road, Austin (Cat III))
bigbadwoulfe.......298W.......72.0kg....4.13W/kg (Not yet a racer but will be beginner this April)
Miscreant............260W.......63.5kg....4.09W/kg (Cat 5,new to racing)
tonyzackery........340W.......86kg.......3.95W/kg
ctgt...................270W.......70kg......3.94W/kg (M2 Ontario, previously S4, mostly Citizen MTB)
Betulla ...............269W.......70kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Ohio, training for the 2008 Etape)
strader...............262W.......68kg......3.85W/kg (Cat V, Sport MTB)
No1kung1..........294W.....77kg.........3.82W/kg (Cat 3, NYC)
Millzebub.............310W.......86kg......3.6W/kg (Cat 5, new racer, 36, oakland, ca)
dkrenik...............250W.......78.9kg....3.17W/kg (4erver4, M45+, Colorado)
RJBTrek..............230W.......86kg.......2.67W/kg (Cat 5, Chicago, 47, new to racing)
Alex Simmons......130W.......95kg.......1.4W/kg (estimate only. M 40+ recovering from injury, Sydney, Aust.)

I was lactate tested in October. 220W...2.75 W/kg I've improved tremendously listening to my body and utilizing some of the good advice on this forum. I used to train by heart rate, but recently picked up a powertap (it has changed everything). Yesterday I did a 20 min LT test on a computrainer indoors and held 310 watts. So +90 watts in ~5 months. I've trained like a mad man (~15 hours a week). It's definitely a great feeling to see that pay off.

I don't know about that. I know a pro that can't do 5.22 W/kg for an hour....but he is a sprinter.

I should clarify-I'm sure it's possible to be a pro with an ftp of 5.22 w/kg. But it's based on something other than your climbing ability. I also suspect you have to be significantly larger than 64 kilos.

Hi

Just out of interest is everyone using the same method of determining their FTP? The reason I ask is because I can get very different results depending on the protocol I use.

Using the 95% of the average power for a 20 minute TT as per Allen & Coggan's book (ie after the 100rpm spin sets and the 5 min flat out TT) my FTP would measure lower than if I rested well and then just blasted out a 20 minute TT from fresh and took 95% of that.

Just curious, wondering if everyone does the "long" test - and my is it long or what!

PBUK

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The protocol in the book never made sense to me. For awhile I used Monod but found it was hard to get good data. Even then, the predicted CP always seemed on the high side. I also didn't like losing training time by doing short tapers before the tests.

I do 3x20 on an ergometer at a TSB of around -10 and use that as FTP. That allows me to avoid having to do any sort of taper and it counts as a workout, too.

Hi Squint

Right... so you do 3x20 and use that as FTP? So are you calling your FTP the average power of the 3x20s? If so what sort of a recovery period do you have between the 20 minute efforts. Or are you taking 95% of the average of the 3, 95% of one of the efforts, or something else?

Just trying to get it clear in my mind what your method of establishing your FTP is

Cheers

PBUK

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It's nothing complicated. I simply use method #6:

http://www.cyclingforums.com/showpos...07&postcount=3

Rest period is 5 mins and if I wasn't doing them on an ergometer, I would take the average of the 3. But because I'm doing them on the erg, I set the power for all 3 intervals equally and I either complete the workout or I blow up at some point and literally grind to a halt.