30/60 intervals with NP=FTP - Page 2

Good heavens!! Is that an outdoors-standing-all-out or on a trainer? What's your 5 sec best?
This more than underlines the amazing difference between individuals. As difficult it is to think of your impressive FT numbers as unbelievable it feels (from a Fast Twitcher perspective) that you cannot kick the pedals more than that for just 30 sec.

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"It takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."

Yeah, but that's still like a million watts.

If you're not used to them, then they probably would... But then again it also probably means that you've got some work to do in that area.

If I recall correctly, you've always been one to do lots of endurance based work to 'push' FTP up - maybe it's time to 'pull' for once... Just a thought.

actually that was in a road race last year - my 2nd 'break' attempt after the 1st one off the line was chased down. Only 700-705 W x 30-seconds (seated) and then after getting a gap, I dialed it back to L5 for ~5min and then back under threshold. I was definitely motivated and fresh to boot.

5-sec power: sub 1000W --- I hardly ever see four digits on my PT display. Actually most solo rides I won't even see much over 650W.

Even when I started riding back in '88, I couldn't sprint and was just shocked at how quickly people passed me in the last 200m of a crit for example! Later on, I learned to try and steal a lap from 'em

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rmur

Ah some time ago I decided to ignore the adage: "race your strengths, train your weaknesses" in favor of "train your strengths, train your strengths, train your strengths ... then race your strengths"

We only have a couple of RR here each year so my training is very applicable to the 20-50k TT we have here plus a few HC. I'd never hang in a race in which I couldn't 'control' the tempo.

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And I bet you have learned to appreciate that too! When it comes to cycling I'd be happy to switch to lap stealing diesel engine .
During your power training time have you noticed any changes in NMP? I am a bit worried that I will lose my snap concentrating training on aerobic side which would mean that after that I'd suck in everything

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"It takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."

Well I think the ex. phys blokes would say that NMP and aerobic capacity are inversely related. I've only had an outdoor PM since 2004 and can't say I have noted a change in that time. Mainly, if I'm fresh ... ooh say tsb +10 or higher (within reason!), I notice a substantial difference. Still sucks but not as bad.

Anecdotal again but having the aerobic capacity to get over the final hills didn't seem to hurt Cavendish too much in MSR! it's a matter of balance to some degree and allowing yourself to get 'fresh' when it really matters.

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rmur

Yes, that bloke is absolutely amazing!! 290km and he sprints like a scooter!

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"It takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place."

I've done very little (practically no) Z6/Z7 training, and not much Z5, in the last few years. No road races in 2 years, and loads of time trials and tempo.

My 5sec power is still ~1200W, same as it ever was....

I'll trade you. You can have my last rides 5 sec power and I'll gladly take your lap stealing skills. That would be fun.

Min Max Avg
Power: 1583 1583 1583 watts
Heart Rate: 159 160 160 bpm
Cadence: 99 99 99 rpm
Speed: 31.9 31.9 31.9 mph