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Default Another unexpected big Phonak result! hmmm...

Oscar Pereiro continues the Hamilton tradition at Romandie.
Any guesses how?
Any takers?
Look at his palmares.
turned pro just a few years ago, almost no wins except oh wait, Classique des Alpes last year in Phonak's big run up before the Tour de France.
Now, who shows up out of the blue and storms to a win in Classique with no previous results?
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Oscar Pereiro continues the Hamilton tradition at Romandie.
Any guesses how?
Any takers?
Look at his palmares.
turned pro just a few years ago, almost no wins except oh wait, Classique des Alpes last year in Phonak's big run up before the Tour de France.
Now, who shows up out of the blue and storms to a win in Classique with no previous results?
Why unexpected? Check last year`s Tour and Vuelta results..
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Why unexpected? Check last year`s Tour and Vuelta results..
10th overall in the Tour de France and 6th in the prologue. Seems like the kind of guy who could realistically win a TT in Romandy to me.
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10th overall in the Tour de France and 6th in the prologue. Seems like the kind of guy who could realistically win a TT in Romandy to me.
Yep. No big surprise here.
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Shut up, Flyer.

Why do you hate cycling so?
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Don't forget that Phonak is a Swiss team, and want/has to do well in Switzerland.
Seems normal to me.
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Don't forget that Phonak is a Swiss team, and want/has to do well in Switzerland.
Seems normal to me.
yeah, I guess y'all are right.
Oh well and looks like that famous Swiss rider Botero is back in form. Did a Bobbu Julich and disappeared on Telekom then backin form as soon as he's out. Do you think these guys do it on purpose to say f*#^ you to Telekom or is the team that destrcutive to non Teutons? well and Vino, but he'd do well anywhere...
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Shut up, Flyer.

Why do you hate cycling so?
No point digging your head in the sand.
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So after nearly being thrown off the Pro Tour , having virtually all their management sacked and changed and losing their team leader in one of the most public and high profile doping cases since Festina and you think they'd risk it all less than 6 months later on a warm up event? Go take a seat in the dumbass corner with Flyer.
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Would that be the 'getting your meds right' corner?

Botero is a surprise winner, not because he is not a 'talented stage race-style rider' but rather, his meds have not been 'correct' for several years. Perhaps he and his medical team found a new method?

Finally, redemption with a victory.

Put some 'Actovegin on that road rash' Ouch!.

No hope w/o the dope!
Flyer, you are really a loser.
I still don't understand what you are doing here, go find a sport you like (obviously you don't like cycling) and stop posting the same things every 10 minutes.
By the way, are you a cyclist?
I doubt so, you probably are a couch potato unable to do any kind of effort.
No surprise you can't stop blaming those men that can do 260+km on the bike at 40+km/h.

Envy is a bad thing.
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yeah so the public is also somewhat guilty for wanting athletes perform 42 kph....there are more sides to the story. You could go on and on about doping but what about the future.

T. Dekker 6th at the time trial in Romandie....great performance! By the way next week is the giro. Almost forgot with all the clouds of doping accusations hanging over this forum




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Get a grasp on reality pal: Wake up and accept the IV feed. Speaking out on the menace which fools many into accepting a commercial fraud is not a waste of time.

Envy drug addicts? You worship them, not I.

Loser, I guess it depends on the definition. I have won dozens of bicycle races; 1) on the track, 2) road races, 3) hilly circuit races 4) criteriums 5) mountain bike, no time trials, however.

So too with motorcycles, in various different types of events. Plenty of victories there too.

Insider awareness of how professional endurance athletes prepare in no way disqualifies me as being passionate about sport---cycling in particular.

I suppose Greg Lemond is another loser in your book. If so, I am in great company!

Insofar as doing a 21 day stage race (Tour de France) at a speed average of 42 kph---that just proves the medical practice of doping. Hein Verbruggen (UCI chief) has said publicly---if the public wanted a Tour de France at a speed average of 25 kph----we would not need dope.

But the pubic seems to want a 42 kph speed---and that is why doping is required.

So, it is your attitude which is squarely to blame.

Go back into your clowdy haze.
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Insider awareness of how professional endurance athletes prepare in no way disqualifies me as being passionate about sport---cycling in particular.
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But why the hell do you still follow pro races??? Many people -like you- have lost interest in those races but are still passionate about cycling. They go out and ride.
They don't keep posting thousands of times that pros are cheaters and pro races are 'who has the best medical team' races.
Make your choice, if you don't believe in pro cycling anymore, stop following it.

(Sorry for the loser, I probably was wrong if you have such a palmarés)
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Still there is the question do you enjoy watching cycling?


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Winning a bicycling or motorcycle race does should not determine whether one is a winner of loser in life.

People who race alot, have the most obvious chances to improve and learn how to win a race.

Phonak won't change it's doping tune, merely the pretence of compliance. Botero for Hamilton.

If they are all on drugs---then cheating may be the wrong context. But the doping is still wrong.

The problem with all commercial funded sports----is that many fans never participated in them except in elementary school. These folks know nothing of how the 'sausages are made' so to speak---and yet they speak with absolute authority that doping is not a problem.

It is. And it is a massive and perverse one.

From doping we can quickly morph into other forms of commercial and coporate deceptions and fraud. Once a professional 'winning at all cost' attitude is accepted, chaos follows.

In 2003 & 2004 procycling was more embarassed and exposed for the dirty secrets it lied about since the 1998 Festina & TVM arrests.

The 1999 Lance Armstrong 'miracle comeback' distracted everyone from Marco Panatani's scandalous win (half the field quit) to another commercial story 'cancer recovery'. (Pantani could not defend his Tour de France title because of his 1999 Giro blood problem DQ)

While that Cancer Recovery story saved the Tour de France and made Lance Armstrong an Icon---it did nothing to stop doping in cycling. In fact, it ignited it to new levels, whilst switching the focus away from what would later be learned at the Lille Trial in October 2000.

Michele Ferrari is a hero in the performance blood doping community and his malpractice conviction is a badge of honor to him.

To answer your question, I go where the fire is. I follow the smoke to professional sport---that's where you will discover a 'pharmacy of wheels'.

The fire is doping, cheating, fraud, cover-ups abusing themes of goodness.

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