Extensive drug dossier on Hamilton and Riis from 2003 - named in Operation Puerto - Page 4

****e ! I'm doing an audit now and covering my tracks.... but I'll leave a few receipts on my bookcase as a reminder never to cheat again....

But the following day, in the Sunday edition of Danish newspaper Politiken, new claims were made, which detail the American rider’s alleged drug use during the 2003 season - while riding for CSC - after the newspaper acquired a ‘doping calendar’, which the Spanish police, the Guardia Civil, obtained as part of the Operacion Puerto investigation into doping in cycling in Spain.

EPO, growth hormone, testosterone and insulin are attributed to rider ‘4142’, used over a period of 114 days in just a seven-month period in 2003. The same rider was due to receive two blood transfusions during that year’s Tour de France, according to the calendar.

It is alleged that the code name ‘4142’ was used by Hamilton – by both the Spanish police and by Politiken, who came to the conclusion by comparing the American’s race calendar and results with the obtained calendar

Virenque admitted his drug use. I don't think you'll see Landis do the same. It seems he's sticking to the Hamilton model: Deny, deny, deny and those nitwits left believing are you fan base.

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Postal suspended a rider (was it Noval?) back around 2000 due to irregularities, but teams are not exactly anixous to publish that information. At least, they weren't at the time - no one was openly talking about doping back then. They are now.

Hamilton was warned by the UCI in spring 2004 that his blood looked funny, not enough reticulocytes, which was an indication of autologus blood doping. The UCI didn't follow up on that, Phonak appeared to do nothing (hey Andy - too bad you weren't so anti-doping back then), Fuentes got his blood bags mixed up, and the rest is history.

Even if one rider decided to speak out, their chance of making a difference is slight. The team would discredit the rider, show a troubled history, say that the rider was just making things up to divert attention from themself. That's how it works in the corporate world with whistleblowers, don't see why a multimillion dollar team would be any different.

The top stars? Doping or not, they're not going to upset a boat that's bringing in 1 - 1.5 million a year in salary, plus three times that in endorsements. Ride for ten years, then retire and never work again at age 35. Hell, I'd juice up on EPO for that sort of payoff.

Same here.

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You're right.... I'd dope to for that sort of cash and retirement package... good post… one thing to mention is the risk to 'use' is worth it..... if you get busted then you still keep the cash... thats why I wondered why Hamilton spent what he did on his appeals.... although on the VeloNews website it said he had already invested well and had made a lot of money.....

Well it took some time before Virenque admitted this...

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I agree it would be hard to not dope knowing what kind of payoffs are at stake. Plus it seems as though using the current PED's is a reasonably low-risk proposition. Especially if you're working with a "doctor". In recent years we haven't heard of too many deaths or serious illnesses as a result of PED's like we did in the eighties and early ninties. I could be wrong about this but that's the impression I get. I think there may be some truth to Ferrari's infamous "safe as orange juice if used properly" statement.

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It's better to not affraid his customers. Ok PED's without "doctor" is more dangerous.
But a real doctor says: "Medicine drugs, used properly, are always less safe than orange juice".

By the way: at Eneco again no Riis, somebody wrote in another thread that Riis had a holiday, well he has had holidays since July 23, i wish i had such a long holiday....

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Yeah, but he cried, man. That means something in my book. He cried hard too. He was like, "I'm a doper... boo ******' hoo!" And I was all, "Man, you gotta let the nigga back in the peloton if he's crying up in his own press confrence." And Lance was like, "If they ever catch me, I'm crying too."

Then I axed him, "Caught for what? I thought you didn't do that ****?" And he was all, "Hummm, ahhh... get caught picking my nose." And then I was all, "Of course. No one wants to get caught with their finger up their nose scatching for golden nuggets."

My momma used to say, "Go on, Martin. Pick a winner," and I'd be like, "F-you momma!" Oh, daddy'd whip the tar out of me.

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I agree that for the elite level riders, working with a Doctor, things might be sort of safe. The problem is that the young guys and the support riders have to dope to keep up and they don't have the $$$ to pay for a comprehensive program. So maybe they fill their own needle one day and do it wrong. How many times have we heard of a DNF with stomach problems. How many times is that something drug induced?

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You're wrong on Noval. He joined after 2000. In fact, it was a surprise to many (except myself) that, in 2004, the first year he joined the team, he made the Tour de France squad. He got dropped in the TTT, and was crying at the end of the stage. But he still got in within the time limit.

It's almost a damned lottery. All the time, boosted by team management, and glossed over by the governing organizations. The UCI wants the money to continue to roll in, while WADA has this problem with a loose cannon rolling around on the deck. With those clowns in charge, how hard could doping be?

One of the reasons (possibly the prime reason in my opinion) that cycling is having this problem is that the sport itself is particularly vulnerable to advanced medicine, as it places such great emphasis on endurance. Granted, there are a lot of other skills, and a lot of hard work, but it's not like a tennis player can juice up and immediately hit a better serve. Cycling today combines endurance and big money - none of the other endurance sports have this sort of budget. So put big bucks and a big (albeit illegal) boost together, toss in a couple of befuddled referees, and you get... now let's not all shout the answer at the same time...

This problem will remain with cycling for as long as medicine and sponsors exist. Hopefully, the UCI will see the error of it's ways as sponsors continue to drop out, and WADA will put someone at the helm who has less personality and more impartiality.

It recovered from Festina, it will recover from this.

It appears now that it didn't recover from Festina, it merely ignored Festina, shoving that historical interlude aside as quickly as it could, but Festina wasn't an instance, it was and is at the core of the sport.

Cycling will continue, maybe with fewer sponsors, with lower budgets, maybe with fewer riders chasing dreams.

Heck, even boxing continues, and who pays attention to boxing anymore?